Wrong. It's all about theft. As a content creator, I do not appreciate having my work stolen from me. Do you work for free? And do you have a problem with people being paid for their work?
I have to assume that anyone who uses digital lockers is a supporter of piracy and other criminal activity.
I'd be more likely to condemn file-sharing if the artists weren't getting shafted too. I think we should redesign the system and help the legitimate artists get the cash, not the RIAA.
Come on now, only the government can steal legally. You don't pay their extortion fees(TAXES) they take what you own and tell you it's for your own good. Unless of course your one of their legal monopolies.They have to protect the wealthy because they create jobs? Or so we keep hearing. Why else does money influence how the laws are enacted to protect those who get to run a monopoly in this poor excuse for capitalism? Steal what you can before the government does. I'm still waiting for the first banker to go to jail and their assets stolen siezed by the Empire.
The music industry is the biggest reason not to become a musician. Now these crooks want governmental level control of the audience. This industry needs to go away and be replaced by an artist driven system, where each artist gets to decide how their music gets distributed and the lawyers all get to starve to death in the streets.
I think people fail to realize that "cloud" computing is the wave of the future and was primarily initiated for the sole purpose of housing all your internet storage and software needs, while also allowing the aforementioned to be easily monitored and managed, if required by "law". Microsoft is a big advocate, and it is just a matter of time before most, if not all, of our software and storage access will be in the clouds, and your operating system will direct you there. After all, politicians routinely have their heads in the clouds and their hands in the pockets of big business, so it was just a matter of time before the days of total internet freedom and universal access migrated there. Governments exist to monitor and manage their serfdoms and will continue to do so, while they verbally, politically, and innocuously advance their philosophies of protecting the serfs. The Patriot Act was the beginning of the end. Just re-label any serf a potential threat, and he will be at the mercy of the overlord, and it is quite easy to do so if the serf has too much food, owns weapons with ammunition, or advocates constitutional injustice. Welcome to the world of Big Brother.
@AnUnidentifiedMale do you know what a dongle is? a better solution than putting people in jail. if you don't know what it is google it. programs do not work unless you have your dongle plugged in.
The Congress shall have Power … To promote the Progress of Science
and useful Arts, by securing for limited Tımes to Authors and Inventors
the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries
United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8
Current copyright law is a prime example of corporate influence that perverts the original intent of the law. Depending on the type of work the default length of copyright is the life of the author plus either 50 or 70 years. In the case of corporations, which owns most of the copyright material the time limitations are nearly endless.
This endless copyright time limit effectively shields individuals and corporations from any competitive pressures and is stagnating new creations. The current copyright law is anti-competitive, anti-American and perversely anti-social.
Megaupload already had a policy in place that all the RIAA had to do was state this work violated copyright and they would take it down. That is the best anyone could have done. For those of us who used Megaupload to share games they have created themselves this is extremely annoying.
You mean like the infamous Auto Warranty and Card Services scam calls? The ones that say "...press 1 to speak to an operator, 2 to be removed from our list". You press 2 and they still keep calling and calling....
Having a stated policy means nothing if it isn't enforced.
I have known people who use Megaupload to watch whole TV series that haven't even come out on DVD yet. We disagreed about its use, but the end point is that legally it is illegal. Not so much for the viewers, but for the host who makes money (look at the requirements for "unlimited" viewing on Megaupload).
Oooh, a whole tv series? no kidding? You mean the same tv series they could watch on TV? What is this world coming to when people want to watch a tv series, that they could have watched for free on tv anyways?
Maybe some people have too busy of schedules to have watched every episode from a season, so they want to catch up by downloading an episode or two? Why should they have to wait and buy a dvd set to do so? And besides, if they missed one episode in the season, they should be able to catch up on that episode online, before the next episode comes out the next week.
In other news the mainstream press is about 5 years behind the rest of the internet. They're only just now becoming a "growing piracy concern"? That's one of the best lols I've read all week.
My real concern is that anyone is still calling it "piracy", or a "concern".
It is not piracy (files don't and generally can't be "lost" or "stolen", because of how easy they are to copy), and (partly because of that, and partly because of the lack of respect for due process by companies that cry "piracy") frankly it's not my (or most Web users') concern.
Fortunately, there are so many people and groups who make good games and music, who don't subscribe to the "piracy" term, and who offer their wares at reasonable prices, that I barely even have time, much less need, to "pirate".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if people do not want to buy movies or music it will ALWAYS be available online. The comment about speed on the locker sites is just simply wrong. Especially with torrent sites which you can still download at your top internet speed on most files. Not to mention that many newsgroup sites have faster speeds then the locker sites ever had. Bottom line is piracy is near impossible to stop. Why don't the producing companies start adding stuff to their products that can't be pirated online which would encourage consumers to buy their products such as limited edition photos with cd's and movies, concert and movie ticket discounts with purchases, or maybe other material products that the consumer can use to bring more money into the system. Should they have to do this? Probably not, however at this point and time I believe Pandora's box has been open and there is no way you are getting the sins back in the box.
The only real solution as far as I can see is to move to a sponsor-based system where a group of sponsors pay the content creators for the work that the sponsor deems useful. This is how things used to work in the past, and they still work this way to a limited extent.
In continuation from my above post, it is very scary on how far behind these companies and the news agencies are when it comes to piracy. For example I'm going to give you a few results from a popular newsgroup website on certain searches:
Ides of march: 111 Results (including DVD quality AND Blue Ray copy) MoneyBall: 113 Results (including DVD quality AND Blue Ray copy) Contraband: 12 Results (bootlegs)
So on and so forth. Not to mention you can find ANY music artists entire discography to download with a click of a button in one convenient zip file.
All files are downloadable at your internet top speed.
And you thought the locker sites where the big guys?
I'd never heard of Megaupload before the shutdown, but I'd heard of online backup. I'll never use it and this is a prime example of why it's dangerous. If my only backup of my critical data is on someone elses servers, and someone I don't even know is using the same servers for illegal purposes, the entire site can be shut down and I have no backup of critical data. And what about a business that is trusting and stupid enough to put all their data in the cloud? You can have it all destroyed or at least inaccessible, in a heartbeat. I'll make my own backups and keep my own data thank you.
The real issue is actual access to sites like Megaupload, Rapidshare, Torrent sites and others. SOPA and PIPA have gone into hiding but only for the moment. The majority of average Americans access the internet via their home cable subscription, or a similar service, all of which are owned by corporations with interconnecting interests in the media industry.
They have the technology to block access to any site or service they choose. All they lack at the moment is the legal power to do so. It takes a relatively small amount of coding for them to block consumer access to hundreds if not thousands of web addresses.
It is powerful lobby, and it is only a matter of time before they have chipped away at all of our ability to access where we want to go on the web. Newsgroups are great now, until the day when the majority of people won't even be able to access them. (Again, the vast majority of people are point and clickers, the truly tech savvy will always know where to go)
Here's your major reason to not use cloud storage for any of your legal content. Expect to lose access at any moment, probably in the middle of system failure that requires restoration from it. No storage provider, even the most reliable and law abiding can prevent storage of "intellectual property" and the way SOPA and PIPA are written and will eventually be shoehorned through means you will lose access to your stored data because your next door neighbor on the same service is pirating music.
That digital family photo album you've created over a decade and decided to store online because it is safer? It may disappear at any moment in time without due process and may never come back, no matter how much you point and scream and try to educate the people who shut it down that your data store had nothing but your own "intellectual property". The ultimate irony, eh?
I always thought copyright was a civil issue anyway. What because the RIAA gets tired of suing children suddenly it becomes the government's responsibility to enforce RIAA's business. BS. Send those corporate welfare queens back to work.
sopa also made using a torrent a felony. (nature of the beast you both download and upload). you can get 5 years in federal prison for downloading a Michael Jackson torrent but only get 4 years if you caused him to die. Once we give our government the power to shut down a web site without due process just because they disagree with what is on it we are heading toward a dictatorship. there are still countries that respect a persons privacy and unless our government bans us from going to sites in those countries the next owners of a silver shadows will be owners of proxy servers. I can hear our congress now "why would anyone need to be on the Internet anonymously. lets find them and put them in jail. we can just ass-u-me they are up to no good. we can get rid of due process and tell everyone what they should believe."
Why am I still seeing the term 'piracy' being used to describe file sharing? Piracy is distribution for profit of physical merchandise being represented as legitimate. One could argue that in the digital age files equivocate to physical merchandise, but even then there is still no profit. And the only thing that makes file sharing 'illegal' is tort law, not criminal. Any legislation which tries to criminalize digital copyright infringement (SOPA, PIPA) is trying to shift the legal burden from lawsuit to law enforcement, and the expense of remedy to the taxpayer instead of the industry.
File sharing arose from a fed up consumer base who all saw a way to 'stick it' to the music biz fat cats who overcharged for digital music. Since the advent of the CD in 1982 they have had the same near zero cost duplication and portability of digital files that the consumer discovered a generation later which allowed their profits to soar. Empty promises of lower prices never materialized and the consumer revolted as soon as they had the means. Instead of getting the message and rewriting their business model the idiots lawyered up and took the advice of these techno-ignorant suits and pursued all legal means to fight back. Public opinion eroded further and they dug themselves a deeper hole, which has destroyed their business forever. After years of losses they are now trying to update their model, but SOPA and PIPA prove they still think pursuing legal avenues is the best approach. Never going to work. In case you haven't looked around in a while the internet is global. There is no world wide legal jurisdiction and getting multi-country cooperation takes time, where as new code is fast and the network potentially morphs quickly into something else.
Despite how this might sound I do not partake in file sharing and believe worthy content creators should be compensated proportionately. But I do believe the supply side of this equation (artists, labels, etc.) need to understand that the new model is the norm now and they will not survive on old school ideas anymore. Distribution and promotion can be successful at near zero cost if done correctly and are the only way to profit legitimately in the modern digital age.
"Ilk"? Why would a Reuters press release call an industry 'ilk'? This sounds like it was written by the rich, for the rich, protecting their wealthy entertainment industry. Why would anyone care if they lose a few bucks out of billions? Why don't they copy-protect their own property? Why is this such a huge deal to nobody and overreported? Wy does the Federal Govt all of a sudden have to be in the business of policing for Weinstein and Co.? People are so greedy and corrupt it makes you want to vomit.
Right, if you don't want people to copy your stuff, digitally protect it and if you can' t for what your selling it for you should not wonder why it gets copied.
The benefits of online piracy as detailed by Slate:
""
Perhaps the government and media industry should consider this.... Also, why are we so concerned about piracy when there are more important factors affecting the economy? They should have better things to do.
Semantics do not avoid the truth of the issue. Megaupload did not restrict account access to just the owner. Megaupload was intentionally designed to be used for content distribution. That is not what a "digital locker" is for.
True artists do not need megaupload. Anybody can bring up a site in a day or so and share their works for free if they want.
If Megaupload was on the up-and-up, it would have required a second login using email-based password whenever an account login attempt occurs from a different ip block than previously recorded from the system. That would protect lockboxes from hackers and prevent Megaupload from being used as a content distribution site.
Because of creeps like these, Congress is considering brickbat legislation that will put the whole internet at risk. Those who think the internet is a game where freedom means full-blown copyright violation bear the onus of blame for bringing the house down on those of us who do not abuse the internet.
Billions aren't enough. This is nothing but already super wealthy rats in suits conspiring together to keep every crumb for themselves. The music industry peddles nothing but audio diarrhea these days anyway. Rap, Gaga and Bieber. Hollywood churns out comic book based CGI pieces of crap and lame remakes. So, the gluttons can lock down the internet. I don't download any of that crap anyway.
exactly. this is not piracy since you didn't exchange any money for it. lending a video game to a friend to play is piracy to these corporate thugs. ridiculous!
Who the hell cares if you weren't going to buy it... You self entitled piece of s***, that doesn't give you the right to take things that are meant to be part of a business transaction.
Zapix, you give such a wonderful argument. NOT! How many movies or CD's can you afford now that they charge so much. If they were reasonable and fair they wouldn't have to worry about this. And watch you language.
jody, nice argument yourself. just because you cant afford something does'nt mean you should steal it. lets break it down to something you can under stand.
lets say that you have worked 44 hrs at your local micky dee's. when you get your paycheck it only has 40 hrs pay on it. you complain, and the manager tells you that yes you worked 44hrs but did only 40 hrs worth of work. he don't have to pay you the other 4 hrs because he doesn't believe that you did enough work to earn it. and no he's not stealing from you because you didn't earn it.
Agree. Seems like everyone is just making excuses to justify stealing. Yea, the big fat corporations lose money, but so does the artist or whoever created the content. Someone worked on the content. Doesn't matter if it was a game, movie, book, or music. Make all the excuses you want. The bottom line is someone worked hard on it and deserves to get paid for it if other want his product. If you dont like it, don't buy it. There is always waiting for it to go on sale. Big difference in borrowing something from a friend versus getting downloaded thousands of times.
The game Torchlight was a brilliant example. Awesome game for $10. Worth every penny and priced right. I think $60 for Starcraft and such is pricey, but they put a lot more depth and polish into it. Don't want to pay $60. Easy. Wait until it goes on sale. You can also download your new games or movies, but don't dress it up. Admit you're stealing and get over it.
As for those defending Megaupload as not being Piracy. How many millions in profit did he make last year????
if you could get a refund on movies, cds, and programs that are not what the say or don't work I would be glad to pay up front but most of them are ripoffs so i check them out before I buy them.
maybe they have a point. there has been a noticeable decline in the quality of drugs and prostitution provided at RIAA's xmas parties in the past few years...
Storage Lockers are neither a problem, nor "piracy". If there are any unauthorized uploads on a Locker, it is not "theft", "stealing', or "piracy"; it is simply a copyright violation.
The RIAA's (and MPAA's) "loss" numbers are pretty much made up out of whole cloth; studies have shown that people who sample music or movies via download are more likely to go on to buy the commercial product than people who do not "sample" the wares. Essentially, there are no "losses", since a large number of illegal downloads would never have been purchases in the first place (or would have been purchases if the copyright owner had actually made the product available on a reasonable basis in the first place). The downloads that do result in subsequent sales are free marketing for the copyright owner - customer-initiated "viral" marketing, if you will. Even if you count every single copyright-violation download as a "lost sale", the numbers would still be something like an order of magnitude less than the made-up industry figures.
Try not to take RIAA and MPAA press releases as truth - there's more smoke in them than substance.
If the music and digital image companies weren't busy trying to make bazillions consumers would buy the products. But with the rip off they are charging everyone goes elsewhere for content. Price the product right and more people would buy and your profits would increase and piracy would be less, but they are so greedy they don't understand this.
It's all about money... money, money, money.
Wrong. It's all about theft. As a content creator, I do not appreciate having my work stolen from me. Do you work for free? And do you have a problem with people being paid for their work?
I have to assume that anyone who uses digital lockers is a supporter of piracy and other criminal activity.
Open the link below. Notice how little money the artist gets per song.
http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/2010/how-much-do-music-artists-earn-online/
I'd be more likely to condemn file-sharing if the artists weren't getting shafted too. I think we should redesign the system and help the legitimate artists get the cash, not the RIAA.
Come on now, only the government can steal legally. You don't pay their extortion fees(TAXES) they take what you own and tell you it's for your own good. Unless of course your one of their legal monopolies.They have to protect the wealthy because they create jobs? Or so we keep hearing. Why else does money influence how the laws are enacted to protect those who get to run a monopoly in this poor excuse for capitalism? Steal what you can before the government does. I'm still waiting for the first banker to go to jail and their assets
stolensiezed by the Empire.It's the new RULE of LAW.
The music industry is the biggest reason not to become a musician. Now these crooks want governmental level control of the audience. This industry needs to go away and be replaced by an artist driven system, where each artist gets to decide how their music gets distributed and the lawyers all get to starve to death in the streets.
AnUnidentifiedMale,
> As a content creator, I do not appreciate having my work stolen from me.
Huh? It's not been stolen from you. You still have it. Stop lying.
> I have to assume that anyone who uses digital lockers is a supporter of piracy and other criminal activity.
You know this assumption is bull. Such sites are also used for storing files that are not copyrighted.
> other criminal activity.
Where did that come from?
What's next? You want YouTube (run by Google) shutdown too by the same logic? They have much pirate content than Megaupload ever did.
Megaupload problem was bragging about it, they should have taken their business more serious and lawyer d up.
@AnUnidentifiedMale
Which is why your failed business model is failing you.
Digital online storage is used for a lot of legal offsite storage. Just because you cannot get this concept, doesn't mean your theory holds water.
I think people fail to realize that "cloud" computing is the wave of the future and was primarily initiated for the sole purpose of housing all your internet storage and software needs, while also allowing the aforementioned to be easily monitored and managed, if required by "law". Microsoft is a big advocate, and it is just a matter of time before most, if not all, of our software and storage access will be in the clouds, and your operating system will direct you there. After all, politicians routinely have their heads in the clouds and their hands in the pockets of big business, so it was just a matter of time before the days of total internet freedom and universal access migrated there. Governments exist to monitor and manage their serfdoms and will continue to do so, while they verbally, politically, and innocuously advance their philosophies of protecting the serfs. The Patriot Act was the beginning of the end. Just re-label any serf a potential threat, and he will be at the mercy of the overlord, and it is quite easy to do so if the serf has too much food, owns weapons with ammunition, or advocates constitutional injustice. Welcome to the world of Big Brother.
@AnUnidentifiedMale do you know what a dongle is? a better solution than putting people in jail. if you don't know what it is google it. programs do not work unless you have your dongle plugged in.
The Congress shall have Power … To promote the Progress of Science
and useful Arts, by securing for limited Tımes to Authors and Inventors
the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries
United States Constitution, Article I, Section 8
Current copyright law is a prime example of corporate influence that perverts the original intent of the law. Depending on the type of work the default length of copyright is the life of the author plus either 50 or 70 years. In the case of corporations, which owns most of the copyright material the time limitations are nearly endless.
This endless copyright time limit effectively shields individuals and corporations from any competitive pressures and is stagnating new creations. The current copyright law is anti-competitive, anti-American and perversely anti-social.
@AnUnidentifiedMale
I used digital lockers all the time.
I use them to store video of the medical problems with my mothers legs.
The files are around 300-500mb each.
It not like I can attach that to an email.
Digital lockers have their legit uses and people who abuse them.
Megaupload already had a policy in place that all the RIAA had to do was state this work violated copyright and they would take it down. That is the best anyone could have done. For those of us who used Megaupload to share games they have created themselves this is extremely annoying.
You mean like the infamous Auto Warranty and Card Services scam calls? The ones that say "...press 1 to speak to an operator, 2 to be removed from our list". You press 2 and they still keep calling and calling....
Having a stated policy means nothing if it isn't enforced.
I have known people who use Megaupload to watch whole TV series that haven't even come out on DVD yet. We disagreed about its use, but the end point is that legally it is illegal. Not so much for the viewers, but for the host who makes money (look at the requirements for "unlimited" viewing on Megaupload).
Oooh, a whole tv series? no kidding? You mean the same tv series they could watch on TV? What is this world coming to when people want to watch a tv series, that they could have watched for free on tv anyways?
Maybe some people have too busy of schedules to have watched every episode from a season, so they want to catch up by downloading an episode or two? Why should they have to wait and buy a dvd set to do so? And besides, if they missed one episode in the season, they should be able to catch up on that episode online, before the next episode comes out the next week.
You're quite thick, aren't you?
One: TV is paid for
Two: many stations allow subscribers to watch or rewatch episodes of shows they've aired
Three: since when has TV cared about your schedule?
Four: do you even understand how TV shows make money when they're aired?
Don't try and justify theft through your own shortcomings.
I don't think I've used a locker in years. We use another method. Shows just how far behind the movie/music industry is AGAIN.
In other news the mainstream press is about 5 years behind the rest of the internet. They're only just now becoming a "growing piracy concern"? That's one of the best lols I've read all week.
More schlock writing.
My real concern is that anyone is still calling it "piracy", or a "concern".
It is not piracy (files don't and generally can't be "lost" or "stolen", because of how easy they are to copy), and (partly because of that, and partly because of the lack of respect for due process by companies that cry "piracy") frankly it's not my (or most Web users') concern.
Fortunately, there are so many people and groups who make good games and music, who don't subscribe to the "piracy" term, and who offer their wares at reasonable prices, that I barely even have time, much less need, to "pirate".
I've said it before and I'll say it again, if people do not want to buy movies or music it will ALWAYS be available online. The comment about speed on the locker sites is just simply wrong. Especially with torrent sites which you can still download at your top internet speed on most files. Not to mention that many newsgroup sites have faster speeds then the locker sites ever had. Bottom line is piracy is near impossible to stop. Why don't the producing companies start adding stuff to their products that can't be pirated online which would encourage consumers to buy their products such as limited edition photos with cd's and movies, concert and movie ticket discounts with purchases, or maybe other material products that the consumer can use to bring more money into the system. Should they have to do this? Probably not, however at this point and time I believe Pandora's box has been open and there is no way you are getting the sins back in the box.
The only real solution as far as I can see is to move to a sponsor-based system where a group of sponsors pay the content creators for the work that the sponsor deems useful. This is how things used to work in the past, and they still work this way to a limited extent.
In continuation from my above post, it is very scary on how far behind these companies and the news agencies are when it comes to piracy. For example I'm going to give you a few results from a popular newsgroup website on certain searches:
Ides of march: 111 Results (including DVD quality AND Blue Ray copy)
MoneyBall: 113 Results (including DVD quality AND Blue Ray copy)
Contraband: 12 Results (bootlegs)
So on and so forth. Not to mention you can find ANY music artists entire discography to download with a click of a button in one convenient zip file.
All files are downloadable at your internet top speed.
And you thought the locker sites where the big guys?
Hush :)
I'd never heard of Megaupload before the shutdown, but I'd heard of online backup. I'll never use it and this is a prime example of why it's dangerous. If my only backup of my critical data is on someone elses servers, and someone I don't even know is using the same servers for illegal purposes, the entire site can be shut down and I have no backup of critical data. And what about a business that is trusting and stupid enough to put all their data in the cloud? You can have it all destroyed or at least inaccessible, in a heartbeat. I'll make my own backups and keep my own data thank you.
The real issue is actual access to sites like Megaupload, Rapidshare, Torrent sites and others. SOPA and PIPA have gone into hiding but only for the moment. The majority of average Americans access the internet via their home cable subscription, or a similar service, all of which are owned by corporations with interconnecting interests in the media industry.
They have the technology to block access to any site or service they choose. All they lack at the moment is the legal power to do so. It takes a relatively small amount of coding for them to block consumer access to hundreds if not thousands of web addresses.
It is powerful lobby, and it is only a matter of time before they have chipped away at all of our ability to access where we want to go on the web. Newsgroups are great now, until the day when the majority of people won't even be able to access them. (Again, the vast majority of people are point and clickers, the truly tech savvy will always know where to go)
Enjoy the Wild Wild West while it lasts.
Here's your major reason to not use cloud storage for any of your legal content. Expect to lose access at any moment, probably in the middle of system failure that requires restoration from it. No storage provider, even the most reliable and law abiding can prevent storage of "intellectual property" and the way SOPA and PIPA are written and will eventually be shoehorned through means you will lose access to your stored data because your next door neighbor on the same service is pirating music.
That digital family photo album you've created over a decade and decided to store online because it is safer? It may disappear at any moment in time without due process and may never come back, no matter how much you point and scream and try to educate the people who shut it down that your data store had nothing but your own "intellectual property". The ultimate irony, eh?
I always thought copyright was a civil issue anyway. What because the RIAA gets tired of suing children suddenly it becomes the government's responsibility to enforce RIAA's business. BS. Send those corporate welfare queens back to work.
sopa also made using a torrent a felony. (nature of the beast you both download and upload). you can get 5 years in federal prison for downloading a Michael Jackson torrent but only get 4 years if you caused him to die. Once we give our government the power to shut down a web site without due process just because they disagree with what is on it we are heading toward a dictatorship. there are still countries that respect a persons privacy and unless our government bans us from going to sites in those countries the next owners of a silver shadows will be owners of proxy servers. I can hear our congress now "why would anyone need to be on the Internet anonymously. lets find them and put them in jail. we can just ass-u-me they are up to no good. we can get rid of due process and tell everyone what they should believe."
Why am I still seeing the term 'piracy' being used to describe file sharing? Piracy is distribution for profit of physical merchandise being represented as legitimate. One could argue that in the digital age files equivocate to physical merchandise, but even then there is still no profit. And the only thing that makes file sharing 'illegal' is tort law, not criminal. Any legislation which tries to criminalize digital copyright infringement (SOPA, PIPA) is trying to shift the legal burden from lawsuit to law enforcement, and the expense of remedy to the taxpayer instead of the industry.
File sharing arose from a fed up consumer base who all saw a way to 'stick it' to the music biz fat cats who overcharged for digital music. Since the advent of the CD in 1982 they have had the same near zero cost duplication and portability of digital files that the consumer discovered a generation later which allowed their profits to soar. Empty promises of lower prices never materialized and the consumer revolted as soon as they had the means. Instead of getting the message and rewriting their business model the idiots lawyered up and took the advice of these techno-ignorant suits and pursued all legal means to fight back. Public opinion eroded further and they dug themselves a deeper hole, which has destroyed their business forever. After years of losses they are now trying to update their model, but SOPA and PIPA prove they still think pursuing legal avenues is the best approach. Never going to work. In case you haven't looked around in a while the internet is global. There is no world wide legal jurisdiction and getting multi-country cooperation takes time, where as new code is fast and the network potentially morphs quickly into something else.
Despite how this might sound I do not partake in file sharing and believe worthy content creators should be compensated proportionately. But I do believe the supply side of this equation (artists, labels, etc.) need to understand that the new model is the norm now and they will not survive on old school ideas anymore. Distribution and promotion can be successful at near zero cost if done correctly and are the only way to profit legitimately in the modern digital age.
"Ilk"? Why would a Reuters press release call an industry 'ilk'? This sounds like it was written by the rich, for the rich, protecting their wealthy entertainment industry. Why would anyone care if they lose a few bucks out of billions? Why don't they copy-protect their own property? Why is this such a huge deal to nobody and overreported? Wy does the Federal Govt all of a sudden have to be in the business of policing for Weinstein and Co.? People are so greedy and corrupt it makes you want to vomit.
Right, if you don't want people to copy your stuff, digitally protect it and if you can' t for what your selling it for you should not wonder why it gets copied.
The benefits of online piracy as detailed by Slate:
""
Perhaps the government and media industry should consider this.... Also, why are we so concerned about piracy when there are more important factors affecting the economy? They should have better things to do.
Not sure why they keep removing the link... irritating. I've seen people post links before! I'm trying again:
www.slate.com/articles/business/small_business/2012/01/sopa_stopping_online_piracy_would_be_a_social_and_economic_disaster_.html
and in case that doesn't work, go to slate.com then place this after the .com part:
/articles/business/small_business/2012/01/sopa_stopping_online_piracy_would_be_a_social_and_economic_disaster_.html
Semantics do not avoid the truth of the issue. Megaupload did not restrict account access to just the owner. Megaupload was intentionally designed to be used for content distribution. That is not what a "digital locker" is for.
True artists do not need megaupload. Anybody can bring up a site in a day or so and share their works for free if they want.
If Megaupload was on the up-and-up, it would have required a second login using email-based password whenever an account login attempt occurs from a different ip block than previously recorded from the system. That would protect lockboxes from hackers and prevent Megaupload from being used as a content distribution site.
Because of creeps like these, Congress is considering brickbat legislation that will put the whole internet at risk. Those who think the internet is a game where freedom means full-blown copyright violation bear the onus of blame for bringing the house down on those of us who do not abuse the internet.
Billions aren't enough. This is nothing but already super wealthy rats in suits conspiring together to keep every crumb for themselves. The music industry peddles nothing but audio diarrhea these days anyway. Rap, Gaga and Bieber. Hollywood churns out comic book based CGI pieces of crap and lame remakes. So, the gluttons can lock down the internet. I don't download any of that crap anyway.
The American system of justice was created by the rich, in order to keep them rich.
Look at it this way I never would have bought that movie/game/software in the first place so you aren't losing anything from me downloading it.
exactly. this is not piracy since you didn't exchange any money for it. lending a video game to a friend to play is piracy to these corporate thugs. ridiculous!
Who the hell cares if you weren't going to buy it... You self entitled piece of s***, that doesn't give you the right to take things that are meant to be part of a business transaction.
Zapix, you give such a wonderful argument. NOT! How many movies or CD's can you afford now that they charge so much. If they were reasonable and fair they wouldn't have to worry about this. And watch you language.
jody, nice argument yourself. just because you cant afford something does'nt mean you should steal it. lets break it down to something you can under stand.
lets say that you have worked 44 hrs at your local micky dee's. when you get your paycheck it only has 40 hrs pay on it. you complain, and the manager tells you that yes you worked 44hrs but did only 40 hrs worth of work. he don't have to pay you the other 4 hrs because he doesn't believe that you did enough work to earn it. and no he's not stealing from you because you didn't earn it.
so tell me would you be mad?
Agree. Seems like everyone is just making excuses to justify stealing. Yea, the big fat corporations lose money, but so does the artist or whoever created the content. Someone worked on the content. Doesn't matter if it was a game, movie, book, or music. Make all the excuses you want. The bottom line is someone worked hard on it and deserves to get paid for it if other want his product. If you dont like it, don't buy it. There is always waiting for it to go on sale. Big difference in borrowing something from a friend versus getting downloaded thousands of times.
The game Torchlight was a brilliant example. Awesome game for $10. Worth every penny and priced right. I think $60 for Starcraft and such is pricey, but they put a lot more depth and polish into it. Don't want to pay $60. Easy. Wait until it goes on sale. You can also download your new games or movies, but don't dress it up. Admit you're stealing and get over it.
As for those defending Megaupload as not being Piracy. How many millions in profit did he make last year????
Violation of copyright law is a criminal not civil matter.
if you could get a refund on movies, cds, and programs that are not what the say or don't work I would be glad to pay up front but most of them are ripoffs so i check them out before I buy them.
I have a problem with a police raid over file sharing. Go through the courts.
maybe they have a point. there has been a noticeable decline in the quality of drugs and prostitution provided at RIAA's xmas parties in the past few years...
Storage Lockers are neither a problem, nor "piracy". If there are any unauthorized uploads on a Locker, it is not "theft", "stealing', or "piracy"; it is simply a copyright violation.
The RIAA's (and MPAA's) "loss" numbers are pretty much made up out of whole cloth; studies have shown that people who sample music or movies via download are more likely to go on to buy the commercial product than people who do not "sample" the wares. Essentially, there are no "losses", since a large number of illegal downloads would never have been purchases in the first place (or would have been purchases if the copyright owner had actually made the product available on a reasonable basis in the first place). The downloads that do result in subsequent sales are free marketing for the copyright owner - customer-initiated "viral" marketing, if you will. Even if you count every single copyright-violation download as a "lost sale", the numbers would still be something like an order of magnitude less than the made-up industry figures.
Try not to take RIAA and MPAA press releases as truth - there's more smoke in them than substance.
If the music and digital image companies weren't busy trying to make bazillions consumers would buy the products. But with the rip off they are charging everyone goes elsewhere for content. Price the product right and more people would buy and your profits would increase and piracy would be less, but they are so greedy they don't understand this.