I think it's more likely that he drank a lot of wine and indulged in belladonna, which does the same thing if taken in small quantities and was a popular drug among the ladies of the various courts because it dilates your pupils.
But, seriously, this idiot's request to disturb someone's remains is one reason I am getting tired of tax money being used for grants for ridiculous research projects. I know, I know. It's merry olde England, not the USA, but it's the thought that counts? Shrimps on a treadmill, pickle technology and now, poking some long-dead bones to see if someone smoked dope 400 years ago. Will this silliness never end?
It would seem that the "curse" could be easily avoided by simply having a female do the bone-moving...
Shakespeare is vastly overrated, IMO. He was a very good and entertaining writer and poet...but he wasn't nearly as brilliant as many people seem to believe.
he smoked weed to be inspired to write, the people who read his poems smoked weed to make sense of them, the people who acted in his plays smoked weed to want to be a part of his work, the people who watched his plays smoked weed to be entertained by them, the people who have praised him throughout history smoked weed to make them think he was a genius. my gawd, shakespeare is responsible for setting in motion a viscous weed smoking cycle!!! give this anthropologist an award!!!
maybe this anthropologist was smoking weed when he came up with this idea to dig up shakespeares grave...
Shakespeare is vastly overrated, IMO. He was a very good and entertaining writer and poet...but he wasn't nearly as brilliant as many people seem to believe.
You do realize you are part of a very small and insignificant minority.
Let me elaborate. He was well thought of in his own time, but he wasn't recognized as some kind of literary "genius" until almost 200 years after his own death. He became almost an idol at that point. Look, I'm not saying he wasn't the best of his time or one of the best of all time, even, just that his work isn't really at a level that would explain all the attention he has received over the last couple of centuries. He has good and ahead of his time, but the best ever? I don't think so. that's all I'm saying.
Aguatone...If not Shakespeare, then who would you consider the best writer in the past 400 years?
The Bard still has my vote for literary genius...despite the fact he wrote of human conditions so long ago..His work still has value today. Times have changed but his description of human behavior has not....Stoned or not;)
macaddict - it's not just a matter of popularity (which I agree is not necessarily a good barometer), it's a matter of longevity. Shakespeare is still enormously popular even 400 yrs later.
It's already highly suspected that Shakespeare was a cannabis smoker; pipes were found in his personal collection and have been tested positive for traces of cannabis. Most the comments on here just reveal how well propaganda for the last 75 years on this plant has worked for some, and for others the want for truth will always prevail.
Why? Opium was legal back then I don't think it would be the clincher for heroin.
Who would really think of disturbing this man's grave to find out if he smoked pot or what his diet was. We know pretty much what people ate back then so the question is his drug use?
Are we running out of mummy's in Egypt to disturb so now we are going to start digging up Europe.
Let's dig up JFK to see what he smoked~we know he had orgies in the WH.
... and this matters why? ... as I recall, the substance was not illegal until the twentieth century when it was found that it was affecting tax revenue ... er ... found to be deadly .. yeah is it ... super deadly .... my goodness it must have killed millions by now ..... dreadful stuff ...
Go to the Mexican border or the inner-city to see who it has killed. And no legalizing it won't stop the black market. Just like the lottery didn't stop illegal numbers and OTB did not stop illegal wagering.
come on! marijuana is america's top grossing cash crop! most potheads buy local, not from the mexicans! mexican drug cartels are definitely killing people over the herb, goes to show how low they are. and there's a black market for EVERYTHING! from skittles to cigarettes to knockoff donna karans! come on! legalization will take the power and the cash away from drug cartels! prohibition helps only the MURDERERS....all those who stubbornly support prohibition support all the drug cartels out there, and that includes the TALIBAN. bunch of freakin terrorists! you WANT the killing to continue...YOU all are the true agents of chaos...
bklnynj...Did MJ kill those people in MX and inner cities? That would be a no. The illegal and immoral prohibition is what caused those deaths Dont get it twisted....(but what can you expect tho from someone who seems to be proud of Brooklyn, New York, and New Jersey)
Think of all the part time jobs for your kids that would be eliminated! Let's not put it in a store where someone would check ID's, like liquor and cigarettes. Let's not eliminate the violence of our gun toting south of the border friends by allowing America to produce it's own legal product and eliminate these nice people from the market place. Let's not stop crowding our prisons with these people so we have to let the violent criminals out to make room for these horrible pot smokers. Let's not begin collecting taxes on a multibillion dollar industry. After all, it's working so well like it is, and America doesn't need the money. Oh! I forgot to mention that Billions of Dollars that are leaving this country and headed South, would stay in this country! Economics anyone?
Good to see so many people realize the downside of prohibition of a simple plant, but you all fail to mention the only real reasons the prohibition continues:
If they legalize it, the big Pharma companies are afraid they'll lose billions to people that have access to a new self medication that is 99% safer than ANYTHING they have ever had on the market, is impossible to overdose on it, there are NO proven side effects from its use, and even more it can be used for anything as mild as menstrual cramps or a migraine to something severe such as Parkisons or Multiple Sclerosis, or even just simply using it to treat the extreme side effects associated with Chemo for cancer patients. It really is scary when you think of it from their point of view.
Then you have the alcohol companies that also stand to lose potential billion$ from people wanting to partake in a much safer recreational drug than alcohol.
Then you have law enforcement, now, we can all look at it and say, "if they werent out there harrassing kids that just want to smoke a little harmless pot, they could spend their time solving real crimes." Right? Well, you have to think about this realistically, if we suddenly ended prohibtion, and suddenly(as mentioned above) thousands or millions of people are wanting to partake in a much safer recreational drug than alcohol, guess what happens? ALL CRIME RATES go down!!! Every crime that police have to deal with on a daily basis is potentially fueled by alcohol: from drunken bar fights(assault), spousal abuse (domestic assault), drunk driving(DWI), robbery(true not all robbery is comitted by drunks, but surprisingly alot of it is). Realistically speaking, if people had a much safer alternative to alcohol, crime statistics would drop so much, in EVERY city across the country, that, frankly much of law enforcement would be put out of a job! Of course not to mention agencies such as DEA.
So, in conclusion, all of these groups stand to lose out on ALOT of money if prohibtion were ever stopped, so, until we actuall get some politicians that make decisions based on what would be best for the people, and not taking money from these lobbyists to continue keeping things the way they are now. It just won't happen. If you want to see someplace that has the furthest potential to let it happen, look to Canada, with their public healthcare system, Pharma doesn't need to worry about legalization there, so if we see it at some point, it will have to happen there before our government would even begin to think about making any changes.
If you want to see someplace that has the furthest potential to let it happen, look to Canada, with their public healthcare system, Pharma doesn't need to worry about legalization there,
Being from Canada, I can tell you that smoking pot here is less then a mistominor, if you have less then an oz on you, the cops do not even bother as they know the courts will tell the cops to stop waisting court time. I work in downtown Toronto and I see peeps openly smoking everyday. About 8 years ago, some of the pot laws were struck down in Ontario; WOW! what a party that was for a few months until the government put a "Band Aid" in place.
In the Toronto City Hall square, every year in April, they have a "smoke in" thousands of peeps show up and well, smoke up (the street vendors make a fortune that day) and the cops, city/province/federal government really do not care.
The only thing that is preventing us from fully legalising it is the US government, over the years a few peeps in government have suggested it and the US goes ballistic with all sorts of threats, so we keep the minimal laws on the books and just do not enforce it.
If they legalize it, the big Pharma companies are afraid they'll lose billions to people that have access to a new self medication that is 99% safer than ANYTHING they have ever had on the market, is impossible to overdose on it, there are NO proven side effects from its use, and even more it can be used for anything as mild as menstrual cramps or a migraine to something severe such as Parkinson or Multiple Sclerosis, or even just simply using it to treat the extreme side effects associated with Chemo for cancer patients
I have three arthritic cervical joints and one dessicated cervical joint. I take 3 Norco (Vicodin) tabs a day, and have been for the last three years. When the pain is unbearable, I take a toke of my legal medicinal marijuana. I am one of the few patients my pain MD has that has not asked for an increase in their opiate medication.
In response to bklynj, while I am painfully aware of the death and violence talking place in our border areas, and even on the streets of small town america, I respectfully disagree that this, or any other particular drug is the cause of it. We have seen the same results from the illicit trade in heroine, crack, cocaine and even in prohibition era alcohol. This is not a new scenario. You are correct in that were this substance to suddenly be made legal, the violence would not stop and you are right, but I suspect not for the reasons you believe. Corruption begets violence and more corruption and it is a poison that consumes any country, free or otherwise. Countries such as Russia degenerate into nothing more than thug-ocracies, but not for the fault of one illicit substance. A government which passes too many laws and in the process alienates too many people loses the bond it should and must have with the people it was created to govern. When the common person loses respect for law, this is the result. Poorly conceived ideas such as the so called 'war on drugs' exacerbate this situation and give it a chance to grow rapidly and finance its weapons and corruption. Take away one illicit business and they will find another for they prey on weakness and greed, but I see no need to fuel the fire without reason ..... and fuel it we surely have.
You had better do some google research about Harvard Medical experiments and THEIR conclusions about pot. Respected studies have show it inhibits inflammation from arthritis, inhibits cancer tumor growth , and although the jury is out it may also prevent alzheimers from progressing. Moving on to insomnia, here's betting a dose before bed would enable many to sleep better. And of course it is a well known nausea suppressent as well
Agreed David-1023706. Plus, a little weed helps The Matrix 2 actually make some sense. Although I question the Alzheimer study. When I'm really baked, I forget how to use my telephone. Or is that mushrooms........?
David-1023706, Read the respected studies. Marijuana does NOTHING compared to FDA approved medication. You promote part of the leftest press agenda to promote marijuana as a panacea.
Marijuana will lower you interocular pressure, but so will a good martini and NOTHING compared to the medications.
Look at what your saying, marijuana is a panacea. Right? You are promoting a leftist fantasy.
Oh this is the first drug in history that cures everything! What a piece of nonsense.
Yeah but weed doesn't destroy your liver like "medications" and if "medication" is so damn great then why is there so many people with cancer that can only be helped by weed? Snoop you a fool.
joeroganisawesome, your personal attack is a violation of the term of service agreement.
4real123, yes it is a mind altering chemical that has no practical medical benefit.
Listen to what you're saying: Marijuana cures cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, knee injuries, glaucoma, retinal detachment, stroke, respiratory diseases, diabetes, malnutrition, bulimia, anorexia, it cures everything!!!!
Except it cures nothing and is a placebo. You're just using it as an excuse to do drugs in a mind-altering and debilitating way. You don't fool me and you don't fool anyone else. You just have leftist TV producers who are pushing in on America because you are all drug addicts and you live in a van down by the river.
Weed as you put it, destroys your lungs, advances cancer and destroys your ability to think critically and analytically.
You forgot to mention side effects may include hair growth on the eyeball, third and/or fourth nipples growing in, cranial hair loss, breat enlargment (on men) and breast reduction (on women), penile shrinkage, extra appendage growth in unexpected places. You know, all those fun things.
Snoop Marky Mark... you should change your name because you and Snoop have nothing in common. To say it doesn't have any medical benefit is wrong and closed minded....typical of the proponents agaisnt legalized marijuana.
Studies assessing the anticancer properties of cannabinoids have shown that they inhibit the proliferation of a wide range of cancers, including brain cancer, prostate cancer, oral cancers, lung cancer, skin cancer, pancreatic cancer, biliary tract cancers, lymphoma, and breast cancer:
The dual effects of delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol on cholangiocarcinoma (biliary tract cancer) cells: anti-invasion activity at low concentration and apoptosis induction at high concentration.
The anticancer effect of Delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the principal active component of cannabinoids has been demonstrated in various kinds of cancers.
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
Cannabinoids inhibit cellular respiration of human oral cancer cells.
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734
Anti-proliferative and apoptotic effects of anandamide in human prostatic cancer cell lines: implication of epidermal growth factor receptor down-regulation and ceramide production.
RESULTS: ANA induced a decrease of EGFR levels on LNCaP, DU145, and PC3 prostatic cancer cells by acting through cannabinoid CB(1) receptor subtype and this leaded to an inhibition of the EGF-stimulated growth of these cells.
Cannabinoids reduce ErbB2-driven breast cancer progression through Akt inhibition
Results
Our results show that both Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the most abundant and potent cannabinoid in marijuana, and JWH-133, a non-psychotropic CB2 receptor-selective agonist, reduce tumor growth, tumor number, and the amount/severity of lung metastases in MMTV-neu mice. Histological analyses of the tumors revealed that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell proliferation, induce cancer cell apoptosis, and impair tumor angiogenesis. Cannabinoid antitumoral action relies, at least partially, on the inhibition of the pro-tumorigenic Akt pathway. We also found that 91% of ErbB2-positive tumors express the non-psychotropic cannabinoid receptor CB2.
Http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196
Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors
Http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16116/version/1
Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits epithelial growth factor-induced lung cancer cell migration in vitro as well as its growth and metastasis in vivo
Cannabinoid Receptor-Mediated Apoptosis Induced by R(+)-Methanandamide and Win55,212-2 Is Associated with Ceramide Accumulation and p38 Activation in Mantle Cell Lymphoma
We have recently shown that cannabinoids induce growth inhibition and apoptosis in mantle cell lymphoma (MCL), a malignant B-cell lymphoma that expresses high levels of cannabinoid receptor types 1 and 2 (CB1 and CB2).
Pot Compound Protects Against Alcohol-Induced Brain Damage
Researchers hypothesized that CBD is neuroprotective because it possesses anti-oxidant properties. Anti-oxidants, such as vitamin C and vitamin E, are believed to help the body protect against the deleterious effects of free radicals (unstable atoms that can damage cells and may accelerate the progression of cancer and age-related diseases).
Oh, I see, marijuana is the only substance in the universe that cures everything and also produces a mind altering state.
And you don't get what a fantasy you're taking about? You sound like five year olds with chocolate.
What you fail to note is that it is less than 1% as effective as the FDA medications and the 1% effectiveness can be attributed to spontaneous remission. All diseases have a rate of spontaneous remission in the range 0 - 100%. Marijuana efficacy is 0%.
You are all taking fantasy.
Listen to yourselves. "It's a miracle drug, it cures multiple sclerosis and all wars!"
wait, you mean just the websites? you're right, they don't have anything to do with marijuana for the most part, they're medical websites chock full of scientific data for everyone to see. kinda insidious how I tried to pull that over you guys...sorry for going all darth vader on you.
See my post at 4.7. While it is anecdotal, it is also true. Marijuana has an analgesic effect that has kept my need for "real" medications at a constant level.
..and to your retort back at Robert at 5.16
I am not closed minded, you are. I look at facts, scientific data and see how you drug addicts spin your sinful lies.
Michael in S J, nothing compared to FDA approved medication. Marijuana has 1% efficacy to authentic medications.
And is does not cure cancer, heart disease, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, stroke, respiratory diseases, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, malnutrition and on and on and on or any other disease.
It is a mind altering chemical and that I the only reason you want it legalized.
you do realize those medical websites i'm referring you to are about studies on marijuana, right? all those pages I'm showing you, it's about marijuana and how they fight cancer and all that, right? I didn't need to waste my two seconds on explaining all that to you, right? Just making sure...btw i thought i saw you say somewhere that you read scientific data...these sites should be right up your alley then! if you need some help, don't hesitate, just raise your hand, mmmkay...?
If only you knew what you were talking about or could keep a single line of thought going.
I take Norco (Vicodin) for chronic pain. Norco does not cure anything: it is an analgesic. Marijuana does not cure my arthritis or repair my dessicated disc. It an analgesic that works really REALLY well as an adjunct to my prescribed Norco and has allowed my to keep a long standing prescription for an opiate analgesic without the necessity to ask for Norco more often or with a larger dose, or to move on to more potent opiates such as oxycodone, hydromorphone or morphine patches.
The vast majority of medications are to treat symptoms of disease, not cure disease.
You are spouting your ill-informed beliefs rather than judging the opinions of researchers.
Snoop why don't you go cry somewhere else. Why don't you quit watching refer madness and reading pharmaceutical lies about marijuana. Oh and in case your don't ever quit being a "ra-tard" weed doesn't make cancer worse. And it doesn't kill your brain cells but actually stimulates them. Of course your weak mind can't handle any of this because you believe the 1970's study with monkeys where they hooked them up to a machine that allowed them to breathe in ONLY marijuana for minutes at a time. Of course thats going to kill brain cells. Maybe you should back that study up and just hold your breath for five minutes at a time. Probly won't affect you much.
Snoop Marky Mark- "nothing compared to FDA approved medication. Marijuana has 1% efficacy to authentic medications.
And is does not cure cancer, heart disease, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, stroke, respiratory diseases, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, malnutrition and on and on and on or any other disease.
It is a mind altering chemical and that I the only reason you want it legalized"
Noone ever said it cures those diseases, it simply alleviates the symptoms temporarily from those disesase, but, here's a real shocker, which of those diseases have the FDA found a cure for? NONE. Except they can treat cancer, and hopefully it doesn't come back. But, that treatment causes terrible side effects that, some people would rather die from the cancer itself than live with those side effects. Those side effects, are what Medical marijuana can be used to help alleviate, in a way that won't interfere with the chemos used to treat the cancer(which alot of drugs out there can do when mixed).
All other diseases you mentioned don't have a cure, only drugs(which are okayed by the FDA) that also try to alleviate the symtoms of the disease, but usually they too have horrible side effects, and also they can cost thousands of dollars a month for the suffering patients. So, the choice then is, take this pill which costs $2-3k/month, and also carries risks that may include heart attack and/or stroke, to alleviate my multiple sclerosis symptoms, or smoke a bowl which also alleviates these symtoms and enables me to function normally, and carries no risk of side effects. Yeah some choice.
Oh, and not only that, but currently they are doing studies on marijuanas use as a potential preventative against some diseases such as Alzheimer's. Due to the fact that marijuana use increases brain activity in the lobes that, usually atrophy from inactivity when Alzheimers sets in.
Michael in S J"If only you knew what you were talking about or could keep a single line of thought going." I know exactly what I am taking about, it's called science and I follow a clear line of thought. Thanks for the personal attack.
joe420er Do you realize I looked at some of them and they contain no info on marijuana or the research shows a nominal effect of marijuana?
joeroganisawesome, I don't cry, just put drug addicts to death. I know science, you know drugs. Your personal attacks are a violation of the terms of service agreement. Weed doesn't make cancer better. Weed is also a carcinogen. Again, Your perosnal attacks are a violation of the terms of service agreement.
Prohibtion doesn't work Yes many of the FDA medications don't cure those diseases, but neither does marijuana.
People want to use marijuana for one reason only, and it's not medical benefits, it's the mind-altering component.
The effects of herbal cannabis are a composite of a number of cannabinoid compounds, terpenoids and flavonoids. Thus, cannabidiol, a constituent of herbal cannabis, may offset some δ-9-THC effects (Zuardi et al., 1995). The ratio of the constituents of herbal cannabis varies, and this may result in important differences in its net effect. http://www.namicalifornia.org/document-detail.aspx?page=newsviews&tabb=previousnews&lang=ENG&idno=126
Cannabis, of course, is more than THC. Other ingredients provide additional benefits and mitigate the adverse effects of THC.
Cannabidiol, for example, reduces dysphoria and depersonalization provoked by THC while contributing its own anxiolytic, antipsychotic, analgesic, antiemetic, anticarcinogenic, antioxidant, and neuroprotective effects.
Snoop is just a troll, completely ignores the facts about the actual medical benefits and continues saying the same BS over and over again.
Okay then SnoopMarkyMark, heres one for you, since your so bent on arguing that the FDA approved drugs are the only ones that work, that cannabis has no medical value. Swallow this little pill then:
h t t p://www.businessinsider.com/fda-ready-to-give-big-pha-rma-control-of-medical-marijuana-2011-4
Just as the federal government is clamping down on medical marijuana dispensaries, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market
So, if it has no real medical value, why is the FDA considering letting the pharmaceutical companies having the market for it?
Recognizing the potential healthcare benefits of cannabinoids, the United States government successfully filed a patent for CBDs as antioxidants and neuroprotectants that was granted on October 7, 2003 (see http://tinyurl.com/6hwwmt). Cannabidiol, the most specific non-psycho active, beneficial compound had originally been listed in the Federal Register (7372) as a Schedule 1 drug or substance but was notably absent from the list in a Code of Federal Regulations change since April 1, 2010. Some of the benefits stated in the government's patent brief included cannabinoids having antioxidant properties and being useful in treating autoimmune disorders, stroke, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV.
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1##
Inventors: Hampson; Aidan J. (Irvine, CA), Axelrod; Julius (Rockville, MD), Grimaldi; Maurizio (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee: The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)
I am brainwashed by the truth and scientific data and marijuana is a drug with only significant harmful effects and no significant benefits.
All you people do is lie and present this placebo as a panacea.
Wow, so, thats your comeback, seriously? Just repeating what you've said before? And to ignore the articles that PROVE THAT MARIJUANA IS A DRUG WITH PROVEN MEDICAL BENEFITS?
So, to repeat myself, Snoop Marky Mark, this one is for you...
since your so bent on arguing that the FDA approved drugs are the only ones that work, that cannabis has no medical value. Swallow this little pill then:
h t t p://www.businessinsider.com/fda-ready-to-give-big-pha-rma-control-of-medical-marijuana-2011-4
Just as the federal government is clamping down on medical marijuana dispensaries, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market
So, if it has no real medical value, why is the FDA considering letting the pharmaceutical companies having the market for it?
Prohibtion doesn't work: "FDA may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market. "
And then again, they may not.
There is still no evidence that marijuana is an effective medication for anything compared to medications that do work.
Furthermore, marijuana is carcinogenic and a mind altering agent, which makes it an immediate disqualification for a replacement medicine, of which it is not.
I continue to repeat the same arguments, because they are valid.
Finally, Prohibition doesn't work, prohibition doesn't work for murder either, but we still prohibit that in society.
h t t p://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Support/marijuana
h t t p://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainNews/marijuana-advocates-sue-feds-dea-rejects-weed-medicine/story?id=14046823
Well, until you and the DEA pull your heads out of your asses, and face up to the fact that you're wrong, the evidence speaks, and will continue to speak, for itself.
"The statement 'it has no accepted medical use' is simply wrong as a statement of fact," said Rob MacCoun, psychologist and professor of Law and Public Policy at University of California Berkeley Law School. "There is now considerable evidence showing medical benefits, at or exceeding standards of evidence for many other pharmaceuticals. Prescribing physicians in over a dozen states clearly see an accepted medical value for their patients."
Gee, I checked out the web site. It states marijuana has some effectiveness for Nausea and Vomiting and Anorexia and Cachexia, that's it!
Hardly a reason to legalize it and there are medical alternatives that are more effective for both symptoms.
Also a professor of Law and Public Policy at University of California Berkeley Law School hardly knows anything about medicine, and Berkeley is hot spot for pot-head instructors.
Also, you don't need to put spaces between the http.
Going back to my original post:
"Thus another attempt to present marijuana as a panacea when it is a placebo. Falsification ad nauseum."
I notice you didn't comment on prohibition of murder.
prohibition of murder has nothing in common with prohibition of marijuana. murder is murder. harming someone else until they're dead. smoking the herb doesn't kill anyone. criminals kill others, and prohibition makes a crime out of a non toxic herb that doesn't even harm anyone, it even heals. if you're so dead set on the notion that it's only a placebo, why don't you answer for the feds' unwillingness to let the FDA to investigate the merits of marijuana? just to prove that it's worthless. why wouldn't we even be granted that much? oh wait, cuz the feds already know the truth and want to prevent the truth from becoming common knowledge. they should at least prove their points by approving actual studies on marijuana in controlled situations instead of just flat out ignoring the ones with the ph.d's or the thousands of sufferers that really use it to alleviate pain just to be "normal." remember the shafer committee. remember the DEA judge francis young who ruled in 1989 that "marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man." remember how the government chose to ignore both conclusions to further the drug war...
murder is murder. pot is not. in fact, alcohol actually contributes to over 80% of all homicides, and a substantial amount to sexual crimes. with alcohol, you lose control of yourself. with the herb, you don't. simple as that. all you do is get high, and if you're used to it, you just live life as a functional, contributing member of society. I don't sit around saying @!$%# like "i feel like a dolphin that's never tasted melted snow...i wonder what the color blue tastes like...dude...i saw an ufo, and bigfoot's real..." i'm a logical, rational man that just likes to unwind with bud, not beer or liquor. it's just healthier...
Marijuana Slows Alzheimer’s Decline “New Spanish and Israeli research shows that a synthetic analogue of the active component of marijuana can reduce the inflammation and prevent the mental decline associated with Alzheimer’s disease. Although it was conducted on human brain tissue in the lab and in a rat model — but not in living humans — the research is regarded as a major step not only in understanding how the brain reacts to Alzheimer’s disease, but also in helping to develop novel drugs for Alzheimer’s and even Parkinson’s disease.”
Marijuana may block Alzheimer’s “The active ingredient in marijuana may stall decline from Alzheimer’s disease, research suggests.”
Prevention of Alzheimer’s Disease Pathology by Cannabinoids Research showing that cannabinoids act as neuroprotective agents against excitotoxicity in vitro and acute brain damage in vitro.
Marijuana’s Active Ingredient Shown to Inhibit Primary Marker of Alzheimer’s Disease “Scientists at The Scripps Research Institute have found that the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, inhibits the formation of amyloid plaque, the primary pathological marker for Alzheimer’s disease. In fact, the study said, THC is “a considerably superior inhibitor of [amyloid plaque] aggregation” to several currently approved drugs for treating the disease.” (Another source.)
Dronabinol in the treatment of agitation in patients with Alzheimer’s disease with anorexia Report of the use of marijuana in cases of Alzheimer’s patients with anorexia. Shows 65% increase in weight among other results.
Dronabinol in the treatment of refractory agitation in Alzheimer’s Disease Dronabinol was found to be an effective treatment for behavioral agitation in community-dwelling patients with AD.
Effects on dronabinol on anorexia and disturbed behavior in patients with Alzheimer’s disease Another study involving anorexic Alzheimer’s patients. This time, however, it included ‘disturbed’ individuals.The “results indicate that dronabinol is a promising novel therapeutic agent which may be useful not only for treatment of anorexia but also to improve disturbed behavior in patients with Alzheimer’s disease.”
Cannabinoids reduce the progression of Alzheimer’s disease in animals “Research by scientists of Madrid’s Complutense University and the Cajal Institute published in the Journal of Neuroscience has demonstrated that cannabinoids can reduce pathological processes associated with Alzheimer’s disease. Researchers hope that cannabinoids may be used to develop new drug therapies against the disease.”
Molecular Link between the Active Component of Marijuana and Alzheimer’s Disease Pathology “Compared to currently approved drugs prescribed for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease, THC is a considerably superior inhibitor of A&bgr; aggregation, and this study provides a previously unrecognized molecular mechanism through which cannabinoid molecules may directly impact the progression of this debilitating disease.”
Cannabinoid receptor stimulation is anti-inflammatory and improves memory in old rats “Stimulation of cannabinoid receptors may provide clinical benefits in age-related diseases that are associated with brain inflammation, such as Alzheimer’s disease.”
Alzheimer’s disease; taking the edge off with cannabinoids? “Cannabinoids offer a multi-faceted approach for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease by providing neuroprotection and reducing neuroinflammation, whilst simultaneously supporting the brain’s intrinsic repair mechanisms by augmenting neurotrophin expression and enhancing neurogenesis.”
US Patent 6630507 – Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants “Cannabinoids [are] useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”
What difference does it make if he did or did not. Jerry set down, open your mind and take the time to understand; if you do Shakespeare does make sense. I for one am getting a little tired of scientist thinking they need to know everything (or think they know) or some grad student needing something for their thesis. There are thing that just need to be accepted for what they are.
So you don't care if no one else ever earns a Ph.D for themselves? Yeah, well, that might work for you but it's not enough for other people in the world.
Peridot - in your case the piled higher and deeper could be a valid meaning of Ph.D. I do happen to have an advanced degree so am in favor of graduate work, just not some of the meaningless endeavors some people appear to support and take on.
Chopped - people of your mental thinking are a good advertisement for cremation, just because someone has passed does not mean they do not deserve respect.
some grad student needing something for their thesis.
I too have a MS in a technology field so it wasn't to difficult to come up with a thesis subject.
But the idea behind completing a thesis is not so much as to the value of the subject matter but rather has the student acquired the tools and processes necessary to conduct the research and then assemble the research into a viable document.
Maybe you think another thesis on Shakespeare or Chaucer or Homer is unnecessary. Maybe it is, but the successful Masters or Doctoral student doesn't, and frankly, that is what is important.
some grad student needing something for their thesis.
I too have a MS in a technology field so it wasn't to difficult to come up with a thesis subject.
But the idea behind completing a thesis is not so much as to the value of the subject matter but rather has the student acquired the tools and processes necessary to conduct the research and then assemble the research into a viable document.
Maybe you think another thesis on Shakespeare or Chaucer or Homer is unnecessary. Maybe it is, but the successful Masters or Doctoral student doesn't, and frankly, that is what is important.
How is this important. Is knowing if he smoked marijuana really a big question. I think there is so much more to learn in the world than this. Will knowing this effect any research in saving lives, cure for cancer, cure for MS, a cure of any know disease that is killing millions of lives over the years. Let's look at legalizing marijuana, hemp, and leave if someone did something years ago alone. Spend money on something that will help society/human race now. Hemp is a good source of industry back in the Elizabethan time. Let's bring back that as an organic way to solve problems.
Hemp is the real sad story, we could be making all kinds of stuff out of it with out destroying the soil and on a nine month crop rotation....sad because this countries middle and lower class need to produce more goods for itself.
just imagine....hemp t-shirts with MADE IN THE U.S. tags, patriots could actually wear an American flag t-shirt that was made in America.
cotton destroys the earth. you need all these fertilizers and pesticides to grow cotton, and pretty much none for hemp. hemp aerates the soil and fertilizes the soil as well as clean the soil of impurities. in fact, there is an ongoing study involving hemp in cleaning up the soil around Chernobyl...
Didn't they grow cotton back in the 1700-1800's in America?.. I'm pretty sure they didn't use fertilizers or pesticides back then and the cotton didn't exactly destroy the soil, if that's true at all...
they didn't use fertilizers or pesticides back then and the cotton didn't exactly destroy the soil, if that's true at all...
No, but the boll weevil destroyed a lot of production necessitating the need for insecticides - and one of the first was nicotine from the tobacco plant.
Hemp, as a source of marijuana is useless as it would take a rail car full of the stuff to get a good joint.
But, Hemp makes a finer paper than paper produced by wood. William Hearst owned large tracts of forests and sought to control the manufacturing of paper (for his newspapers) and sought to have Hemp outlawed. Hemp is renewable on a yearly basis, while a tree takes a generation.
I quoted the documentary "The War on Kids" where they say that Shakespeare only went to school for three months out of the year (I'm pretty sure it was three months) and a friend said that they did not know anything about Shakespear which I thought was not entirely true since they for sure knew about what period he/she lived and what vicinity and from money or no money.. so is this the real grave ?
Leave his body alone and undisturbed. Smoke a large bowl in his honor and contemplate whether or not he used cannabis. Marijuana...The only thing wrong with marijuana is the law. Change the law!
couldnt have said it better myself Jeff ... leave his body alone ... the reasons are not good enough to disturb the final resting of this man ... jeff says it best .. smoke one in his honor and read a poem while doing it ... !!!
What kind of sick persons would exhume him for such ridiculous points ?
He clearly said and WROTE he didn't want his remains touched. The fact that these guys are freaking joking about his use of the word "bones" is insulting. He used it to fit in his poetry, and they are claiming his teeth instead! Could this be even more tasteless ?
Speaking of pot, since new research shows that it inhibits tumor growth, it really pisses me off that my sister might be alive today if she had smoked pot as a therapy instead of going through unsuccessful chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. The govt has deliberatley inhibited pot research for decades, and here it may turm out to be a wonder drug akin to aspirin. Again , going by respected reasearch not High Times heresay
It's forbidden fruit because getting dizzy on pot, an intoxicant that isn't taxed, is not as nice as getting dizzy on whiskey and sour. Besides, the cops can't test you for it with a breathalyzer, can they now?
the way a person is affected by weed all depends on the individual. one person could get dizzy and paranoid, the next person gets relaxed. just like getting a buzz or getting drunk is not the same for every person
Perhaps if the greatest writer in the English language toked up, people might finally accept that the Rastafarians may have had a point about Pot being a gift from God.
29And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
(hemp, anyone? it has helped people survive through famines through edible hempseeds)
Matthew 15:11
King James Version (KJV)
(Jesus quoted)
11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
(in other words, if you partake of it, who cares. but if you bitch at us, you're a bitch and you're going to hell!)
"In the later times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from that which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (Paul: 1 Timothy 1-4)
I can tell you already that your interpretation of Matthew 15:11 is incorrect as Jesus was talking about words, not weed. Go back to Sunday school, Joe.
that right? so explain to me how words goes into the mouth...pretty sure jesus was talking about how what we eat or drink or even smoke doesn't defile us but how judgmental people judge others with their words defiles them.
sunday school's for amateurs anyway...bible's full of it.
Of course he smoked a little weed. Humanity has an entire past just loaded with all sorts of drug use and experimentation!! It is just in our nature to explore altered states. Think about that politician being high on the war on drugs, all the time while he has the Scotch & water in one hand and the cigar in the other. Are these two not loaded with drugs?? The only difference being, is that nicotine and alcohol are our two favorite government sponsored and cleared drugs for mass consumption. Oh, other than all the freaking pain meds were addicted to as a country. Time to get of our asses and start the process to legalize this stuff!! When we have about 55-65% of our prison population incarcerated for non violent drug offenses and runs about $55000.00 a year for that incarceration, well something just doesn't seem right about this. Oh, but wait, the large prison corporations need these people in there to soak more tax payer $$ away!! The time is now to stop the madness!!!
Stress is the root of many illnesses. If someone want to smoke marijuana in their own home to relieve stress or the pain/suffering brought on my sickness, why should they be treated as criminals?
David 1023706, I'm sorry about your sister. My mother also succumbed to cancer after unsuccessful and expensive radiation and chemo treatments. Six months before her death, she lost her appetite and feared that she would starve to death! Luckily, a friend was able to supply marijuana, which allowed her to eat and have less pain during her last 6 months of life.
Pot is the answer to many ills. Its been studied extensively, and found to be almost harmless. A W.H.O. study of Rastafarians found nothing that would warrant it being illegal. No long term negative health effects, and a bunch of positive medicinal uses.
It should be decriminalized.
The criminalization has caused major damage to society, its turned large segments of people against the governement and the police. The term "pig" came along in the 60's because of drug prohibition. The war on drugs has been a bitter failure. Its time to end the insanity, and stop the damage to society. And defund organized crime which has grown into cartels, its gone on so long.
Decriminalize and deal with the drug problem as a health issue.
The definition of insanity, is doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result.
I get out enough -- lived nearly two decades in Jamaica, where there are an awful lot of crazy Rastafarians. Actually, I only ever met one Rasta there who appeared sane. Jamaica is also full of many non-Rastafarian marijuana users with altered mental capacity. My observations (again, over several YEARS of living in that society) are quite consistent with the scientific studies recently reported that show a link between marijuana use and the development of psychosis. Do you actually know anything about Rastafarians, or are you just blowing smoke?
i know enough about judging. personally, i've been smokin it up since middle school. 33 yrs old now, and doin just fine. i know a bit bout the rastas, and show me your source about that study on rastafarians and psychosis...i've seen one where it was proven that marijuana DIDN'T cause psychosis...
River, I don't think you know anything about anybody. Keep "observing."
By the way, the study says that marijuana might speed up the development of pyschosis in people already predisposed to the condition. It does not say it causes psychosis in anyone.
Also, it's one study. One study means garbarge, particularly when there's already been numerous studies saying the drug has no ill side-effects. More research is needed, I'm actually ashamed to hear one of the doctor's say "This study proves.... blah blah blah."
One study never proves anything, it only indicates a trend that needs further research to be conclusive. Real researchers understand this, so the fact that a so-called "doctor" on the page I read is saying that "this [one study] disproves [some possible misconception about the drug]" just makes me wonder who's paying for the "results" of this study. "Disproves" is an irresponsible word to use in this context.
Who cares!? Drunk, stoned, or whatever! This is another one of those disgusting grandstanding efforts to see how much money can be burned in the name of science. With all the world tragedies upon us they should be ashamed of themselves to waste money on something like this when so much good to help the living is available.
No one goes without in England, genius. Everyone has health care and when required, nursing services. You're projecting our lack in the USA on a country where everyone has what they need.
You might want to stop watching Fox news and learn about the differences between here and there.
With all the disasters that have recently occured you should be ashamed of yourself to go grandstanding about this. Why not do something for the living? Drunk, stoned or whatever how can this be important? Just another total waste of money!
Ah...that's why he was so insightful! Just legalize it already! I'm beginning to think that the people who don't want it legalized, have some connection with the drug cartels, because they are the biggest beneficiary of pot being a crime. Just like the gangsters when liquor was illegal, today's gangsters are benefiting from the ignorance of pot being illegal when it is loved and used by millions of Americans. And it's a lot more benign that alcohol could ever be. No one has ever overdosed on marijuana...it's not possible.
pot...a mind altering drug?? seriously?? never heard of anyone (including myself) doing or saying anything outside of their normal personality when high...other than laughing a helluva lot.
of course he toked up! that's why his writings DO make sense :-)
Well, that would explain why the stuff he wrote makes absolutely no sense.
I would suspect opium more than mary-jane.
He must have inhaled unlike Bill Clinton.
I think it's more likely that he drank a lot of wine and indulged in belladonna, which does the same thing if taken in small quantities and was a popular drug among the ladies of the various courts because it dilates your pupils.
But, seriously, this idiot's request to disturb someone's remains is one reason I am getting tired of tax money being used for grants for ridiculous research projects. I know, I know. It's merry olde England, not the USA, but it's the thought that counts? Shrimps on a treadmill, pickle technology and now, poking some long-dead bones to see if someone smoked dope 400 years ago. Will this silliness never end?
Who cares?
What's the difference what he did it does not change his contribution to history or add to it.
The thought is that it has nothing whatsoever to do with US tax dollars, so why bring it up at all?
You idiotic whiners complaining about your own personal tax dollars being misspent is getting old. When will you learn that it's not all about you?
Instead of looking for a loophole around a curse, why not just respect the wishes of the deceased.
It would seem that the "curse" could be easily avoided by simply having a female do the bone-moving...
Shakespeare is vastly overrated, IMO. He was a very good and entertaining writer and poet...but he wasn't nearly as brilliant as many people seem to believe.
Smokeysmom....Yes we all saw the AARP commercial, your not impressing anyone
he smoked weed to be inspired to write, the people who read his poems smoked weed to make sense of them, the people who acted in his plays smoked weed to want to be a part of his work, the people who watched his plays smoked weed to be entertained by them, the people who have praised him throughout history smoked weed to make them think he was a genius. my gawd, shakespeare is responsible for setting in motion a viscous weed smoking cycle!!! give this anthropologist an award!!!
maybe this anthropologist was smoking weed when he came up with this idea to dig up shakespeares grave...
aquatone
You do realize you are part of a very small and insignificant minority.
So was Shakespeare...
Let me elaborate. He was well thought of in his own time, but he wasn't recognized as some kind of literary "genius" until almost 200 years after his own death. He became almost an idol at that point. Look, I'm not saying he wasn't the best of his time or one of the best of all time, even, just that his work isn't really at a level that would explain all the attention he has received over the last couple of centuries. He has good and ahead of his time, but the best ever? I don't think so. that's all I'm saying.
Aguatone, when your Tomes are still being acclaimed 400yrs after your death, then you might have something to say.
Aguatone...If not Shakespeare, then who would you consider the best writer in the past 400 years?
The Bard still has my vote for literary genius...despite the fact he wrote of human conditions so long ago..His work still has value today. Times have changed but his description of human behavior has not....Stoned or not;)
michael in S J
Just because someone is popular, does not equate to talent.
I could name many recording artists of today that would fill that spot.
macaddict - it's not just a matter of popularity (which I agree is not necessarily a good barometer), it's a matter of longevity. Shakespeare is still enormously popular even 400 yrs later.
Just an excuse to try and smoke his remains...obsessed weirdos....
It's already highly suspected that Shakespeare was a cannabis smoker; pipes were found in his personal collection and have been tested positive for traces of cannabis. Most the comments on here just reveal how well propaganda for the last 75 years on this plant has worked for some, and for others the want for truth will always prevail.
Not surprised. This could be the clincher for marijuana legalization if true.
Why? Opium was legal back then I don't think it would be the clincher for heroin.
Who would really think of disturbing this man's grave to find out if he smoked pot or what his diet was. We know pretty much what people ate back then so the question is his drug use?
Are we running out of mummy's in Egypt to disturb so now we are going to start digging up Europe.
Let's dig up JFK to see what he smoked~we know he had orgies in the WH.
bioparahti - I highly doubt that Shakespeare's use or non use of marijuana would have any bearing on drug laws in Europe or the US.
bklynj...heroin isn't on the brink of legalization.
b-895713...probably not, but it wouldn't hurt.
Actually, most these "orgies" occurred either at Camp David or a New York hotel, but I understand your point.
looks like it's time to load the bong...and do some serious write'n....
... and this matters why? ... as I recall, the substance was not illegal until the twentieth century when it was found that it was affecting tax revenue ... er ... found to be deadly .. yeah is it ... super deadly .... my goodness it must have killed millions by now ..... dreadful stuff ...
Go to the Mexican border or the inner-city to see who it has killed. And no legalizing it won't stop the black market. Just like the lottery didn't stop illegal numbers and OTB did not stop illegal wagering.
come on! marijuana is america's top grossing cash crop! most potheads buy local, not from the mexicans! mexican drug cartels are definitely killing people over the herb, goes to show how low they are. and there's a black market for EVERYTHING! from skittles to cigarettes to knockoff donna karans! come on! legalization will take the power and the cash away from drug cartels! prohibition helps only the MURDERERS....all those who stubbornly support prohibition support all the drug cartels out there, and that includes the TALIBAN. bunch of freakin terrorists! you WANT the killing to continue...YOU all are the true agents of chaos...
bklnynj...Did MJ kill those people in MX and inner cities? That would be a no. The illegal and immoral prohibition is what caused those deaths Dont get it twisted....(but what can you expect tho from someone who seems to be proud of Brooklyn, New York, and New Jersey)
Whatever you do, don't legalize pot in America!
Think of all the part time jobs for your kids that would be eliminated! Let's not put it in a store where someone would check ID's, like liquor and cigarettes. Let's not eliminate the violence of our gun toting south of the border friends by allowing America to produce it's own legal product and eliminate these nice people from the market place. Let's not stop crowding our prisons with these people so we have to let the violent criminals out to make room for these horrible pot smokers. Let's not begin collecting taxes on a multibillion dollar industry. After all, it's working so well like it is, and America doesn't need the money. Oh! I forgot to mention that Billions of Dollars that are leaving this country and headed South, would stay in this country! Economics anyone?
Whatever you do, don't legalize pot in America!
Good to see so many people realize the downside of prohibition of a simple plant, but you all fail to mention the only real reasons the prohibition continues:
If they legalize it, the big Pharma companies are afraid they'll lose billions to people that have access to a new self medication that is 99% safer than ANYTHING they have ever had on the market, is impossible to overdose on it, there are NO proven side effects from its use, and even more it can be used for anything as mild as menstrual cramps or a migraine to something severe such as Parkisons or Multiple Sclerosis, or even just simply using it to treat the extreme side effects associated with Chemo for cancer patients. It really is scary when you think of it from their point of view.
Then you have the alcohol companies that also stand to lose potential billion$ from people wanting to partake in a much safer recreational drug than alcohol.
Then you have law enforcement, now, we can all look at it and say, "if they werent out there harrassing kids that just want to smoke a little harmless pot, they could spend their time solving real crimes." Right? Well, you have to think about this realistically, if we suddenly ended prohibtion, and suddenly(as mentioned above) thousands or millions of people are wanting to partake in a much safer recreational drug than alcohol, guess what happens? ALL CRIME RATES go down!!! Every crime that police have to deal with on a daily basis is potentially fueled by alcohol: from drunken bar fights(assault), spousal abuse (domestic assault), drunk driving(DWI), robbery(true not all robbery is comitted by drunks, but surprisingly alot of it is). Realistically speaking, if people had a much safer alternative to alcohol, crime statistics would drop so much, in EVERY city across the country, that, frankly much of law enforcement would be put out of a job! Of course not to mention agencies such as DEA.
So, in conclusion, all of these groups stand to lose out on ALOT of money if prohibtion were ever stopped, so, until we actuall get some politicians that make decisions based on what would be best for the people, and not taking money from these lobbyists to continue keeping things the way they are now. It just won't happen. If you want to see someplace that has the furthest potential to let it happen, look to Canada, with their public healthcare system, Pharma doesn't need to worry about legalization there, so if we see it at some point, it will have to happen there before our government would even begin to think about making any changes.
@Prohibtion doesn't work
Being from Canada, I can tell you that smoking pot here is less then a mistominor, if you have less then an oz on you, the cops do not even bother as they know the courts will tell the cops to stop waisting court time. I work in downtown Toronto and I see peeps openly smoking everyday. About 8 years ago, some of the pot laws were struck down in Ontario; WOW! what a party that was for a few months until the government put a "Band Aid" in place.
In the Toronto City Hall square, every year in April, they have a "smoke in" thousands of peeps show up and well, smoke up (the street vendors make a fortune that day) and the cops, city/province/federal government really do not care.
The only thing that is preventing us from fully legalising it is the US government, over the years a few peeps in government have suggested it and the US goes ballistic with all sorts of threats, so we keep the minimal laws on the books and just do not enforce it.
Prohibition @ 4.5
I have three arthritic cervical joints and one dessicated cervical joint. I take 3 Norco (Vicodin) tabs a day, and have been for the last three years. When the pain is unbearable, I take a toke of my legal medicinal marijuana. I am one of the few patients my pain MD has that has not asked for an increase in their opiate medication.
In response to bklynj, while I am painfully aware of the death and violence talking place in our border areas, and even on the streets of small town america, I respectfully disagree that this, or any other particular drug is the cause of it. We have seen the same results from the illicit trade in heroine, crack, cocaine and even in prohibition era alcohol. This is not a new scenario. You are correct in that were this substance to suddenly be made legal, the violence would not stop and you are right, but I suspect not for the reasons you believe. Corruption begets violence and more corruption and it is a poison that consumes any country, free or otherwise. Countries such as Russia degenerate into nothing more than thug-ocracies, but not for the fault of one illicit substance. A government which passes too many laws and in the process alienates too many people loses the bond it should and must have with the people it was created to govern. When the common person loses respect for law, this is the result. Poorly conceived ideas such as the so called 'war on drugs' exacerbate this situation and give it a chance to grow rapidly and finance its weapons and corruption. Take away one illicit business and they will find another for they prey on weakness and greed, but I see no need to fuel the fire without reason ..... and fuel it we surely have.
Thus another attempt to present marijuana as a panacea when it is a placebo. Falsification ad nauseum.
You had better do some google research about Harvard Medical experiments and THEIR conclusions about pot. Respected studies have show it inhibits inflammation from arthritis, inhibits cancer tumor growth , and although the jury is out it may also prevent alzheimers from progressing. Moving on to insomnia, here's betting a dose before bed would enable many to sleep better. And of course it is a well known nausea suppressent as well
Agreed David-1023706. Plus, a little weed helps The Matrix 2 actually make some sense. Although I question the Alzheimer study. When I'm really baked, I forget how to use my telephone. Or is that mushrooms........?
Whats the telephone dude?
nevermind the ailment....pot is pretty good all by itself.
David-1023706, Read the respected studies. Marijuana does NOTHING compared to FDA approved medication. You promote part of the leftest press agenda to promote marijuana as a panacea.
Marijuana will lower you interocular pressure, but so will a good martini and NOTHING compared to the medications.
Look at what your saying, marijuana is a panacea. Right? You are promoting a leftist fantasy.
Oh this is the first drug in history that cures everything! What a piece of nonsense.
Yeah but weed doesn't destroy your liver like "medications" and if "medication" is so damn great then why is there so many people with cancer that can only be helped by weed? Snoop you a fool.
joeroganisawesome, your personal attack is a violation of the term of service agreement.
4real123, yes it is a mind altering chemical that has no practical medical benefit.
Listen to what you're saying: Marijuana cures cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, knee injuries, glaucoma, retinal detachment, stroke, respiratory diseases, diabetes, malnutrition, bulimia, anorexia, it cures everything!!!!
Except it cures nothing and is a placebo. You're just using it as an excuse to do drugs in a mind-altering and debilitating way. You don't fool me and you don't fool anyone else. You just have leftist TV producers who are pushing in on America because you are all drug addicts and you live in a van down by the river.
Weed as you put it, destroys your lungs, advances cancer and destroys your ability to think critically and analytically.
You forgot to mention side effects may include hair growth on the eyeball, third and/or fourth nipples growing in, cranial hair loss, breat enlargment (on men) and breast reduction (on women), penile shrinkage, extra appendage growth in unexpected places. You know, all those fun things.
Marijuana has actually helped this mother find an alternative to all the supposed pharmaceutical cures for Autism...
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/AutismNews/mother-son-marijuana-treat-autism/story?id=9153881
Snoop Marky Mark... you should change your name because you and Snoop have nothing in common. To say it doesn't have any medical benefit is wrong and closed minded....typical of the proponents agaisnt legalized marijuana.
Studies assessing the anticancer properties of cannabinoids have shown that they inhibit the proliferation of a wide range of cancers, including brain cancer, prostate cancer, oral cancers, lung cancer, skin cancer, pancreatic cancer, biliary tract cancers, lymphoma, and breast cancer:
The dual effects of delta(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol on cholangiocarcinoma (biliary tract cancer) cells: anti-invasion activity at low concentration and apoptosis induction at high concentration.
The anticancer effect of Delta (9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the principal active component of cannabinoids has been demonstrated in various kinds of cancers.
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
Cannabinoids inhibit cellular respiration of human oral cancer cells.
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20516734
Anti-proliferative and apoptotic effects of anandamide in human prostatic cancer cell lines: implication of epidermal growth factor receptor down-regulation and ceramide production.
RESULTS: ANA induced a decrease of EGFR levels on LNCaP, DU145, and PC3 prostatic cancer cells by acting through cannabinoid CB(1) receptor subtype and this leaded to an inhibition of the EGF-stimulated growth of these cells.
Http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12746841?dopt=Abstract
Cannabinoids reduce ErbB2-driven breast cancer progression through Akt inhibition
Results
Our results show that both Δ9-tetrahydrocannabinol, the most abundant and potent cannabinoid in marijuana, and JWH-133, a non-psychotropic CB2 receptor-selective agonist, reduce tumor growth, tumor number, and the amount/severity of lung metastases in MMTV-neu mice. Histological analyses of the tumors revealed that cannabinoids inhibit cancer cell proliferation, induce cancer cell apoptosis, and impair tumor angiogenesis. Cannabinoid antitumoral action relies, at least partially, on the inhibition of the pro-tumorigenic Akt pathway. We also found that 91% of ErbB2-positive tumors express the non-psychotropic cannabinoid receptor CB2.
Http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196
Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors
Http://www.jci.org/articles/view/16116/version/1
Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol inhibits epithelial growth factor-induced lung cancer cell migration in vitro as well as its growth and metastasis in vivo
Http://www.nature.com/onc/journal/v27/n3/abs/1210641a.html
Cannabinoid Receptor-Mediated Apoptosis Induced by R(+)-Methanandamide and Win55,212-2 Is Associated with Ceramide Accumulation and p38 Activation in Mantle Cell Lymphoma
We have recently shown that cannabinoids induce growth inhibition and apoptosis in mantle cell lymphoma (MCL), a malignant B-cell lymphoma that expresses high levels of cannabinoid receptor types 1 and 2 (CB1 and CB2).
Http://molpharm.aspetjournals.org/content/70/5/1612.abstract
Cannabinoids as potential new therapy for the treatment of gliomas (brain cancer)
Http://w w w.expert-reviews.com/doi/abs/10.1586/14737175.8.1.37
Cannabinoids Induce Apoptosis of Pancreatic Tumor Cells via Endoplasmic Reticulum Stress–Related Genes
Http:// cancerres.aacrjournals.org /content/66/13/6748.abstract
Pot Compound Protects Against Alcohol-Induced Brain Damage
Researchers hypothesized that CBD is neuroprotective because it possesses anti-oxidant properties. Anti-oxidants, such as vitamin C and vitamin E, are believed to help the body protect against the deleterious effects of free radicals (unstable atoms that can damage cells and may accelerate the progression of cancer and age-related diseases).
Http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/314/2/780.abstract?sid=4498b396-f35c-49c8-9709-900ffa17e299
Inhaled Cannabis Reduces Pain, Improves Sleep In Patients With Neuropathy, Study Says
Smoked Cannabis For Chronic Neuropathic Pain: A Randomized controlled trial
http://www.cmaj.ca/cgi/rapidpdf/cmaj.091414v1?ijkey=44cf2a4e01bb03581946f0ab6b7217d7a6e78f0b
Marijuana Compound Halts Breast Cancer Tumor Growth
Molecular Cancer
http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196
Marijuana Compound Halts Spread Of Biliary Tract Cancers, Study Says
scientific journal Cancer Investigation
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19916793
As Kenny Powers would put it... "Come here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to @!$%# you up with some truth"...
And if you want to see some proof of medical marijuana in effect on a man suffering from Multiple Sclerosis, watch this:
h t t p://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEOoa6Q4Bds (without the spaces)
Oh, I see, marijuana is the only substance in the universe that cures everything and also produces a mind altering state.
And you don't get what a fantasy you're taking about? You sound like five year olds with chocolate.
What you fail to note is that it is less than 1% as effective as the FDA medications and the 1% effectiveness can be attributed to spontaneous remission. All diseases have a rate of spontaneous remission in the range 0 - 100%. Marijuana efficacy is 0%.
You are all taking fantasy.
Listen to yourselves. "It's a miracle drug, it cures multiple sclerosis and all wars!"
ya, we're the ones who sound like five year olds...
joe420er, I checked some of your websites, they have nothing to do with marijuana.
Robert Wilson, I am not closed minded, you are. I look at facts, scientific data and see how you drug addicts spin your sinful lies.
really? prove that to me and i'll eat my words. huh. just double checked, it's all there for you to see, and has everything to do with the herb.
wait, you mean just the websites? you're right, they don't have anything to do with marijuana for the most part, they're medical websites chock full of scientific data for everyone to see. kinda insidious how I tried to pull that over you guys...sorry for going all darth vader on you.
Snoop
See my post at 4.7. While it is anecdotal, it is also true. Marijuana has an analgesic effect that has kept my need for "real" medications at a constant level.
..and to your retort back at Robert at 5.16
Really!
Michael in S J, nothing compared to FDA approved medication. Marijuana has 1% efficacy to authentic medications.
And is does not cure cancer, heart disease, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, stroke, respiratory diseases, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, malnutrition and on and on and on or any other disease.
It is a mind altering chemical and that I the only reason you want it legalized.
you do realize those medical websites i'm referring you to are about studies on marijuana, right? all those pages I'm showing you, it's about marijuana and how they fight cancer and all that, right? I didn't need to waste my two seconds on explaining all that to you, right? Just making sure...btw i thought i saw you say somewhere that you read scientific data...these sites should be right up your alley then! if you need some help, don't hesitate, just raise your hand, mmmkay...?
Snoop
If only you knew what you were talking about or could keep a single line of thought going.
I take Norco (Vicodin) for chronic pain. Norco does not cure anything: it is an analgesic. Marijuana does not cure my arthritis or repair my dessicated disc. It an analgesic that works really REALLY well as an adjunct to my prescribed Norco and has allowed my to keep a long standing prescription for an opiate analgesic without the necessity to ask for Norco more often or with a larger dose, or to move on to more potent opiates such as oxycodone, hydromorphone or morphine patches.
The vast majority of medications are to treat symptoms of disease, not cure disease.
You are spouting your ill-informed beliefs rather than judging the opinions of researchers.
Snoop why don't you go cry somewhere else. Why don't you quit watching refer madness and reading pharmaceutical lies about marijuana. Oh and in case your don't ever quit being a "ra-tard" weed doesn't make cancer worse. And it doesn't kill your brain cells but actually stimulates them. Of course your weak mind can't handle any of this because you believe the 1970's study with monkeys where they hooked them up to a machine that allowed them to breathe in ONLY marijuana for minutes at a time. Of course thats going to kill brain cells. Maybe you should back that study up and just hold your breath for five minutes at a time. Probly won't affect you much.
Snoop Marky Mark- "nothing compared to FDA approved medication. Marijuana has 1% efficacy to authentic medications.
And is does not cure cancer, heart disease, glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, stroke, respiratory diseases, Alzheimer's, AIDS, leukemia, malnutrition and on and on and on or any other disease.
It is a mind altering chemical and that I the only reason you want it legalized"
Noone ever said it cures those diseases, it simply alleviates the symptoms temporarily from those disesase, but, here's a real shocker, which of those diseases have the FDA found a cure for? NONE. Except they can treat cancer, and hopefully it doesn't come back. But, that treatment causes terrible side effects that, some people would rather die from the cancer itself than live with those side effects. Those side effects, are what Medical marijuana can be used to help alleviate, in a way that won't interfere with the chemos used to treat the cancer(which alot of drugs out there can do when mixed).
All other diseases you mentioned don't have a cure, only drugs(which are okayed by the FDA) that also try to alleviate the symtoms of the disease, but usually they too have horrible side effects, and also they can cost thousands of dollars a month for the suffering patients. So, the choice then is, take this pill which costs $2-3k/month, and also carries risks that may include heart attack and/or stroke, to alleviate my multiple sclerosis symptoms, or smoke a bowl which also alleviates these symtoms and enables me to function normally, and carries no risk of side effects. Yeah some choice.
Oh, and not only that, but currently they are doing studies on marijuanas use as a potential preventative against some diseases such as Alzheimer's. Due to the fact that marijuana use increases brain activity in the lobes that, usually atrophy from inactivity when Alzheimers sets in.
Michael in S J"If only you knew what you were talking about or could keep a single line of thought going." I know exactly what I am taking about, it's called science and I follow a clear line of thought. Thanks for the personal attack.
joe420er Do you realize I looked at some of them and they contain no info on marijuana or the research shows a nominal effect of marijuana?
joeroganisawesome, I don't cry, just put drug addicts to death. I know science, you know drugs. Your personal attacks are a violation of the terms of service agreement. Weed doesn't make cancer better. Weed is also a carcinogen. Again, Your perosnal attacks are a violation of the terms of service agreement.
Prohibtion doesn't work Yes many of the FDA medications don't cure those diseases, but neither does marijuana.
People want to use marijuana for one reason only, and it's not medical benefits, it's the mind-altering component.
As I said at the top:
Thus another attempt to present marijuana as a panacea when it is a placebo.
The effects of herbal cannabis are a composite of a number of cannabinoid compounds, terpenoids and flavonoids. Thus, cannabidiol, a constituent of herbal cannabis, may offset some δ-9-THC effects (Zuardi et al., 1995). The ratio of the constituents of herbal cannabis varies, and this may result in important differences in its net effect.
http://www.namicalifornia.org/document-detail.aspx?page=newsviews&tabb=previousnews&lang=ENG&idno=126
Cannabis, of course, is more than THC. Other ingredients provide additional benefits and mitigate the adverse effects of THC.
Cannabidiol, for example, reduces dysphoria and depersonalization provoked by THC while contributing its own anxiolytic, antipsychotic, analgesic, antiemetic, anticarcinogenic, antioxidant, and neuroprotective effects.
http://www.jaoa.org/cgi/content/full/108/10/586
get it now, oh wise one? btw, it's also anti-carcinogenic, thanks to CBD's (cannabinoids)...
just in case you don't get that one too, here's a hint...cannabis is marijuana.
Snoop is just a troll, completely ignores the facts about the actual medical benefits and continues saying the same BS over and over again.
Okay then SnoopMarkyMark, heres one for you, since your so bent on arguing that the FDA approved drugs are the only ones that work, that cannabis has no medical value. Swallow this little pill then:
h t t p://www.businessinsider.com/fda-ready-to-give-big-pha-rma-control-of-medical-marijuana-2011-4
Just as the federal government is clamping down on medical marijuana dispensaries, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market
So, if it has no real medical value, why is the FDA considering letting the pharmaceutical companies having the market for it?
LOL "puts drug addicts to death" so you kill everyone who drinks coffee, drinks alcholol, takes medication, smokes cigarettes? Your a fag.
hey, snoop, can you explain this to me too?
Recognizing the potential healthcare benefits of cannabinoids, the United States government successfully filed a patent for CBDs as antioxidants and neuroprotectants that was granted on October 7, 2003 (see http://tinyurl.com/6hwwmt). Cannabidiol, the most specific non-psycho active, beneficial compound had originally been listed in the Federal Register (7372) as a Schedule 1 drug or substance but was notably absent from the list in a Code of Federal Regulations change since April 1, 2010. Some of the benefits stated in the government's patent brief included cannabinoids having antioxidant properties and being useful in treating autoimmune disorders, stroke, Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV.
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/cbd-extraction-process-patent-pending-medical-marijuana-inc-consortium-thc-free-product-pinksheets-mjna-1503580.htm
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
Abstract
Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia. Nonpsychoactive cannabinoids, such as cannabidoil, are particularly advantageous to use because they avoid toxicity that is encountered with psychoactive cannabinoids at high doses useful in the method of the present invention. A particular disclosed class of cannabinoids useful as neuroprotective antioxidants is formula (I) wherein the R group is independently selected from the group consisting of H, CH.sub.3, and COCH.sub.3. ##STR1##
Inventors:
Hampson; Aidan J. (Irvine, CA), Axelrod; Julius (Rockville, MD), Grimaldi; Maurizio (Bethesda, MD)
Assignee:
The United States of America as represented by the Department of Health and Human Services (Washington, DC)
Appl. No.:
09/674,028
Filed:
February 2, 2001
PCT Filed:
April 21, 1999
PCT No.:
PCT/US99/08769
PCT Pub. No.:
WO99/53917
PCT Pub. Date:
October 28, 1999
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6630507.PN.&OS=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6630507
His silence speaks volumes. Lol
snoop is a brainwashed TROLL!!
and is golden...! perfect time to smoke some strawberry kush...!
I am brainwashed by the truth and scientific data and marijuana is a drug with only significant harmful effects and no significant benefits.
All you people do is lie and present this placebo as a panacea.
AKwrench your comment are a personal attack and a violation of the terms of service conditions.
pffffffffffftt.......there goes the silence.
Snoop Marky Mark
I am brainwashed by the truth and scientific data and marijuana is a drug with only significant harmful effects and no significant benefits.
All you people do is lie and present this placebo as a panacea.
Wow, so, thats your comeback, seriously? Just repeating what you've said before? And to ignore the articles that PROVE THAT MARIJUANA IS A DRUG WITH PROVEN MEDICAL BENEFITS?
So, to repeat myself, Snoop Marky Mark, this one is for you...
since your so bent on arguing that the FDA approved drugs are the only ones that work, that cannabis has no medical value. Swallow this little pill then:
h t t p://www.businessinsider.com/fda-ready-to-give-big-pha-rma-control-of-medical-marijuana-2011-4
Just as the federal government is clamping down on medical marijuana dispensaries, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market
So, if it has no real medical value, why is the FDA considering letting the pharmaceutical companies having the market for it?
Prohibtion doesn't work: "FDA may be set to give Big Pharma the clearance to take over the market. "
And then again, they may not.
There is still no evidence that marijuana is an effective medication for anything compared to medications that do work.
Furthermore, marijuana is carcinogenic and a mind altering agent, which makes it an immediate disqualification for a replacement medicine, of which it is not.
I continue to repeat the same arguments, because they are valid.
Finally, Prohibition doesn't work, prohibition doesn't work for murder either, but we still prohibit that in society.
h t t p://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Support/marijuana
h t t p://abcnews.go.com/Health/PainNews/marijuana-advocates-sue-feds-dea-rejects-weed-medicine/story?id=14046823
Well, until you and the DEA pull your heads out of your asses, and face up to the fact that you're wrong, the evidence speaks, and will continue to speak, for itself.
"The statement 'it has no accepted medical use' is simply wrong as a statement of fact," said Rob MacCoun, psychologist and professor of Law and Public Policy at University of California Berkeley Law School. "There is now considerable evidence showing medical benefits, at or exceeding standards of evidence for many other pharmaceuticals. Prescribing physicians in over a dozen states clearly see an accepted medical value for their patients."
Gee, I checked out the web site. It states marijuana has some effectiveness for Nausea and Vomiting and Anorexia and Cachexia, that's it!
Hardly a reason to legalize it and there are medical alternatives that are more effective for both symptoms.
Also a professor of Law and Public Policy at University of California Berkeley Law School hardly knows anything about medicine, and Berkeley is hot spot for pot-head instructors.
Also, you don't need to put spaces between the http.
Going back to my original post:
"Thus another attempt to present marijuana as a panacea when it is a placebo. Falsification ad nauseum."
I notice you didn't comment on prohibition of murder.
prohibition of murder has nothing in common with prohibition of marijuana. murder is murder. harming someone else until they're dead. smoking the herb doesn't kill anyone. criminals kill others, and prohibition makes a crime out of a non toxic herb that doesn't even harm anyone, it even heals. if you're so dead set on the notion that it's only a placebo, why don't you answer for the feds' unwillingness to let the FDA to investigate the merits of marijuana? just to prove that it's worthless. why wouldn't we even be granted that much? oh wait, cuz the feds already know the truth and want to prevent the truth from becoming common knowledge. they should at least prove their points by approving actual studies on marijuana in controlled situations instead of just flat out ignoring the ones with the ph.d's or the thousands of sufferers that really use it to alleviate pain just to be "normal." remember the shafer committee. remember the DEA judge francis young who ruled in 1989 that "marijuana in its natural form is one of the safest therapeutically active substances known to man." remember how the government chose to ignore both conclusions to further the drug war...
murder is murder. pot is not. in fact, alcohol actually contributes to over 80% of all homicides, and a substantial amount to sexual crimes. with alcohol, you lose control of yourself. with the herb, you don't. simple as that. all you do is get high, and if you're used to it, you just live life as a functional, contributing member of society. I don't sit around saying @!$%# like "i feel like a dolphin that's never tasted melted snow...i wonder what the color blue tastes like...dude...i saw an ufo, and bigfoot's real..." i'm a logical, rational man that just likes to unwind with bud, not beer or liquor. it's just healthier...
www.showmethefacts.org/medical-marijuana-facts/alzheimers/
“New Spanish and Israeli research shows that a synthetic analogue of the active component of marijuana can reduce the inflammation and prevent the mental decline associated with Alzheimer’s disease. Although it was conducted on human brain tissue in the lab and in a rat model — but not in living humans — the research is regarded as a major step not only in understanding how the brain reacts to Alzheimer’s disease, but also in helping to develop novel drugs for Alzheimer’s and even Parkinson’s disease.”
“The active ingredient in marijuana may stall decline from Alzheimer’s disease, research suggests.”
Research showing that cannabinoids act as neuroprotective agents against excitotoxicity in vitro and acute brain damage in vitro.
“Scientists at The Scripps Research Institute have found that the active ingredient in marijuana, THC, inhibits the formation of amyloid plaque, the primary pathological marker for Alzheimer’s disease. In fact, the study said, THC is “a considerably superior inhibitor of [amyloid plaque] aggregation” to several currently approved drugs for treating the disease.” (Another source.)
Report of the use of marijuana in cases of Alzheimer’s patients with anorexia. Shows 65% increase in weight among other results.
Dronabinol was found to be an effective treatment for behavioral agitation in community-dwelling patients with AD.
Another study involving anorexic Alzheimer’s patients. This time, however, it included ‘disturbed’ individuals. The “results indicate that dronabinol is a promising novel therapeutic agent which may be useful not only for treatment of anorexia but also to improve disturbed behavior in patients with Alzheimer’s disease.”
“Research by scientists of Madrid’s Complutense University and the Cajal Institute published in the Journal of Neuroscience has demonstrated that cannabinoids can reduce pathological processes associated with Alzheimer’s disease. Researchers hope that cannabinoids may be used to develop new drug therapies against the disease.”
“Compared to currently approved drugs prescribed for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease, THC is a considerably superior inhibitor of A&bgr; aggregation, and this study provides a previously unrecognized molecular mechanism through which cannabinoid molecules may directly impact the progression of this debilitating disease.”
“Stimulation of cannabinoid receptors may provide clinical benefits in age-related diseases that are associated with brain inflammation, such as Alzheimer’s disease.”
“Cannabinoids offer a multi-faceted approach for the treatment of Alzheimer’s disease by providing neuroprotection and reducing neuroinflammation, whilst simultaneously supporting the brain’s intrinsic repair mechanisms by augmenting neurotrophin expression and enhancing neurogenesis.”
“Cannabinoids [are] useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s disease and HIV dementia.”
Snoop is a Newsvine nazi brainwashed TROLL!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA
What difference does it make if he did or did not. Jerry set down, open your mind and take the time to understand; if you do Shakespeare does make sense. I for one am getting a little tired of scientist thinking they need to know everything (or think they know) or some grad student needing something for their thesis. There are thing that just need to be accepted for what they are.
So you don't care if no one else ever earns a Ph.D for themselves? Yeah, well, that might work for you but it's not enough for other people in the world.
Hey, at least the guy thinks outside the box. who has ever thought to find thisout? its just simple information on a DEAD person. chill
Peridot - in your case the piled higher and deeper could be a valid meaning of Ph.D. I do happen to have an advanced degree so am in favor of graduate work, just not some of the meaningless endeavors some people appear to support and take on.
Chopped - people of your mental thinking are a good advertisement for cremation, just because someone has passed does not mean they do not deserve respect.
Boomer57
I too have a MS in a technology field so it wasn't to difficult to come up with a thesis subject.
But the idea behind completing a thesis is not so much as to the value of the subject matter but rather has the student acquired the tools and processes necessary to conduct the research and then assemble the research into a viable document.
Maybe you think another thesis on Shakespeare or Chaucer or Homer is unnecessary. Maybe it is, but the successful Masters or Doctoral student doesn't, and frankly, that is what is important.
Boomer57
I too have a MS in a technology field so it wasn't to difficult to come up with a thesis subject.
But the idea behind completing a thesis is not so much as to the value of the subject matter but rather has the student acquired the tools and processes necessary to conduct the research and then assemble the research into a viable document.
Maybe you think another thesis on Shakespeare or Chaucer or Homer is unnecessary. Maybe it is, but the successful Masters or Doctoral student doesn't, and frankly, that is what is important.
How is this important. Is knowing if he smoked marijuana really a big question. I think there is so much more to learn in the world than this. Will knowing this effect any research in saving lives, cure for cancer, cure for MS, a cure of any know disease that is killing millions of lives over the years. Let's look at legalizing marijuana, hemp, and leave if someone did something years ago alone. Spend money on something that will help society/human race now. Hemp is a good source of industry back in the Elizabethan time. Let's bring back that as an organic way to solve problems.
Hemp is the real sad story, we could be making all kinds of stuff out of it with out destroying the soil and on a nine month crop rotation....sad because this countries middle and lower class need to produce more goods for itself.
just imagine....hemp t-shirts with MADE IN THE U.S. tags, patriots could actually wear an American flag t-shirt that was made in America.
Cotton comes from America too.
cotton destroys the earth. you need all these fertilizers and pesticides to grow cotton, and pretty much none for hemp. hemp aerates the soil and fertilizes the soil as well as clean the soil of impurities. in fact, there is an ongoing study involving hemp in cleaning up the soil around Chernobyl...
Awesome. You wouldn't even need a black-light for your doobie to glow in the dark...
riiiight....except you can't smoke doobies from hemp...
Didn't they grow cotton back in the 1700-1800's in America?.. I'm pretty sure they didn't use fertilizers or pesticides back then and the cotton didn't exactly destroy the soil, if that's true at all...
it does now with current pesticides and fertilizers...look it up sometime.
No, but the boll weevil destroyed a lot of production necessitating the need for insecticides - and one of the first was nicotine from the tobacco plant.
Hemp, as a source of marijuana is useless as it would take a rail car full of the stuff to get a good joint.
But, Hemp makes a finer paper than paper produced by wood. William Hearst owned large tracts of forests and sought to control the manufacturing of paper (for his newspapers) and sought to have Hemp outlawed. Hemp is renewable on a yearly basis, while a tree takes a generation.
yes, and that's why hearst started a campaign against marijuana...it was a disguise to bring down hemp itself, not marijuana, and totally worked.
I quoted the documentary "The War on Kids" where they say that Shakespeare only went to school for three months out of the year (I'm pretty sure it was three months) and a friend said that they did not know anything about Shakespear which I thought was not entirely true since they for sure knew about what period he/she lived and what vicinity and from money or no money.. so is this the real grave ?
Yes, William Shakespeare is known to be buried in this grave.
I see they left the part about cocaine residue also inside the pipes out of the story.
Leave his body alone and undisturbed. Smoke a large bowl in his honor and contemplate whether or not he used cannabis. Marijuana...The only thing wrong with marijuana is the law. Change the law!
I would say, if he did smoke weed. Its a little to late to arrest him.
I'm so there Jeff.
the greatest rock songs written by rockstar were all under the influence.
BadMitch actually wrote Hamlet, www.badmitch.com
everyone
dead or alive
deserves their last request
rest in peace
and apperantly
back in england at the times of this excellent poet
they knew that imprissioning someone for such a lame excuse
was an idiots path
keith biodrowski
couldnt have said it better myself Jeff ... leave his body alone ... the reasons are not good enough to disturb the final resting of this man ... jeff says it best .. smoke one in his honor and read a poem while doing it ... !!!
Very well stated Jeff. Let him rest and keep the tradition alive!!
Pot is bad for you ! Thomas Jefferson smoked it and THEN got his slaves pregnant!
yeah a joint can really impregnate someone .. perhaps u need a bird an bees talk ... really !!
The Bard did NOT inhale!
and he only hit it once!!!
His grave should be left in peace. It does not matter whether he smoked or did not smoke marijuana. Inquiring do not want to know.
i think they're just looking for his stash...
What kind of sick persons would exhume him for such ridiculous points ?
He clearly said and WROTE he didn't want his remains touched. The fact that these guys are freaking joking about his use of the word "bones" is insulting. He used it to fit in his poetry, and they are claiming his teeth instead! Could this be even more tasteless ?
This is totally disrespectful.
Speaking of pot, since new research shows that it inhibits tumor growth, it really pisses me off that my sister might be alive today if she had smoked pot as a therapy instead of going through unsuccessful chemotherapy, radiation and surgery. The govt has deliberatley inhibited pot research for decades, and here it may turm out to be a wonder drug akin to aspirin. Again , going by respected reasearch not High Times heresay
It's forbidden fruit because getting dizzy on pot, an intoxicant that isn't taxed, is not as nice as getting dizzy on whiskey and sour. Besides, the cops can't test you for it with a breathalyzer, can they now?
the way a person is affected by weed all depends on the individual. one person could get dizzy and paranoid, the next person gets relaxed. just like getting a buzz or getting drunk is not the same for every person
Perhaps if the greatest writer in the English language toked up, people might finally accept that the Rastafarians may have had a point about Pot being a gift from God.
not to mention the bible...genesis 1:11-12...
also:
Ezekiel 34:29
King James Version (KJV)
29And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
(hemp, anyone? it has helped people survive through famines through edible hempseeds)
Matthew 15:11
King James Version (KJV)
(Jesus quoted)
11Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
(in other words, if you partake of it, who cares. but if you bitch at us, you're a bitch and you're going to hell!)
"In the later times, some shall … speak lies in hypocrisy … commanding to abstain from that which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." (Paul: 1 Timothy 1-4)
I can tell you already that your interpretation of Matthew 15:11 is incorrect as Jesus was talking about words, not weed. Go back to Sunday school, Joe.
that right? so explain to me how words goes into the mouth...pretty sure jesus was talking about how what we eat or drink or even smoke doesn't defile us but how judgmental people judge others with their words defiles them.
sunday school's for amateurs anyway...bible's full of it.
Of course he smoked a little weed. Humanity has an entire past just loaded with all sorts of drug use and experimentation!! It is just in our nature to explore altered states. Think about that politician being high on the war on drugs, all the time while he has the Scotch & water in one hand and the cigar in the other. Are these two not loaded with drugs?? The only difference being, is that nicotine and alcohol are our two favorite government sponsored and cleared drugs for mass consumption. Oh, other than all the freaking pain meds were addicted to as a country. Time to get of our asses and start the process to legalize this stuff!! When we have about 55-65% of our prison population incarcerated for non violent drug offenses and runs about $55000.00 a year for that incarceration, well something just doesn't seem right about this. Oh, but wait, the large prison corporations need these people in there to soak more tax payer $$ away!! The time is now to stop the madness!!!
Stress is the root of many illnesses. If someone want to smoke marijuana in their own home to relieve stress or the pain/suffering brought on my sickness, why should they be treated as criminals?
David 1023706, I'm sorry about your sister. My mother also succumbed to cancer after unsuccessful and expensive radiation and chemo treatments. Six months before her death, she lost her appetite and feared that she would starve to death! Luckily, a friend was able to supply marijuana, which allowed her to eat and have less pain during her last 6 months of life.
My husband had cancer and he had no appetite and he smoked to get it back....If he didn't have the weed he wouldn't have made it either....
live him be, let him rest.
Pot is the answer to many ills. Its been studied extensively, and found to be almost harmless. A W.H.O. study of Rastafarians found nothing that would warrant it being illegal. No long term negative health effects, and a bunch of positive medicinal uses.
It should be decriminalized.
The criminalization has caused major damage to society, its turned large segments of people against the governement and the police. The term "pig" came along in the 60's because of drug prohibition. The war on drugs has been a bitter failure. Its time to end the insanity, and stop the damage to society. And defund organized crime which has grown into cartels, its gone on so long.
Decriminalize and deal with the drug problem as a health issue.
Since Rastafarians are, for the most part, crazy, that seems suggestive of the long-term negative effects you're denying.
wow...really? rastafarians are for the most part, crazy? don't get out much, do you?
I get out enough -- lived nearly two decades in Jamaica, where there are an awful lot of crazy Rastafarians. Actually, I only ever met one Rasta there who appeared sane. Jamaica is also full of many non-Rastafarian marijuana users with altered mental capacity. My observations (again, over several YEARS of living in that society) are quite consistent with the scientific studies recently reported that show a link between marijuana use and the development of psychosis. Do you actually know anything about Rastafarians, or are you just blowing smoke?
i know enough about judging. personally, i've been smokin it up since middle school. 33 yrs old now, and doin just fine. i know a bit bout the rastas, and show me your source about that study on rastafarians and psychosis...i've seen one where it was proven that marijuana DIDN'T cause psychosis...
River, I don't think you know anything about anybody. Keep "observing."
By the way, the study says that marijuana might speed up the development of pyschosis in people already predisposed to the condition. It does not say it causes psychosis in anyone.
Also, it's one study. One study means garbarge, particularly when there's already been numerous studies saying the drug has no ill side-effects. More research is needed, I'm actually ashamed to hear one of the doctor's say "This study proves.... blah blah blah."
One study never proves anything, it only indicates a trend that needs further research to be conclusive. Real researchers understand this, so the fact that a so-called "doctor" on the page I read is saying that "this [one study] disproves [some possible misconception about the drug]" just makes me wonder who's paying for the "results" of this study. "Disproves" is an irresponsible word to use in this context.
Who cares!? Drunk, stoned, or whatever! This is another one of those disgusting grandstanding efforts to see how much money can be burned in the name of science. With all the world tragedies upon us they should be ashamed of themselves to waste money on something like this when so much good to help the living is available.
No one goes without in England, genius. Everyone has health care and when required, nursing services. You're projecting our lack in the USA on a country where everyone has what they need.
You might want to stop watching Fox news and learn about the differences between here and there.
Who really cares except this misguided person. The effort is utterly a complete waste of time and serves no purpose. Let The Bard rest in peace.
With all the disasters that have recently occured you should be ashamed of yourself to go grandstanding about this. Why not do something for the living? Drunk, stoned or whatever how can this be important? Just another total waste of money!
Ah...that's why he was so insightful! Just legalize it already! I'm beginning to think that the people who don't want it legalized, have some connection with the drug cartels, because they are the biggest beneficiary of pot being a crime. Just like the gangsters when liquor was illegal, today's gangsters are benefiting from the ignorance of pot being illegal when it is loved and used by millions of Americans. And it's a lot more benign that alcohol could ever be. No one has ever overdosed on marijuana...it's not possible.
Jeff, well said.
pot...a mind altering drug?? seriously?? never heard of anyone (including myself) doing or saying anything outside of their normal personality when high...other than laughing a helluva lot.
of course he toked up! that's why his writings DO make sense :-)
Mind-altering seems like a good summary of this: