Is it not possible Michelangelo was trying to make the statement that God exists in the mind of man? Maybe, but then again it could've been just a Renaissance "easter egg" drawn in for his own amusement.
Is it not possible Michelangelo was trying to make the statement that God exists in the mind of man?
That's what I was pointing out, the larynx is where the vocal chords are located, so depicting it in a brain is like saying "when you hear the voice of god, it's all in your head."
It's funny this should come up because just the other day I bought a bag of brain stems and one of them looked exactly like God's throat. The Vatican declared it a miracle and I was charging pilgrims ten dollars to visit my house and see the sacred brain stem, but I guess now I'll have to call the whole thing off. Thanks for nothing, MSNBC!
If true, this lends to discussing that Michelangelo may have been a skeptic or agnostic given that he has painted manly features within godly depictions.
Michelangelo and I were born on the same day, 498 years apart. Coincidentally, he hid his disdain for mysticism, like I was forced to do as a child. I always hope that we are working together years apart on a similar mission. He was quite the complex figure - Mozart catered to the religious hierarchy of the time to make money. I love these men for their insight and art, and continue to champion rational and empirical science and philosophy today.
Mr. Harper, your views are so simple. Maybe Michelangelo was more complicated than you are. Maybe he wanted to depict God and man as intertwined and interrelated. A spiritual connectedness - not something tangible. I doubt he was as simple-minded as to create as he did, to give the message to people to "stuff their God."
By the way, philosophy is neither "rational" nor "empirical science." They are thoughts.
you can't just say that the idea of 'god is just in your head' isn't the meaning behind the art because of it being a simple answer. it may sound simple now but how could have people not seen the resemblance til today. it sounds simple when an answer is finally provided, but if it really was that simple, it should have been found shortly after his image was made public.
you can argue that its just coincidence, but many coincidences make it somewhat suspicious. i believe Ronnie Harper has a valid point in that god is just a belief and it is all in one's head.
Hey, I think all great ideas have almost infinite background and supporting thoughts and possibilities that go along with them. Someone as talented , imaginative, and perceptive as MichaelAngelo surely dwarfs the above concepts of his work. In otherwords, he perhaps conceived it first, but the reality already existed.
This is retarded. He was obviously painting the digastricus muscles, Hyoid bone, and Thyroid . Cricoid cartilage. And it's exactly what it looks like too. Whoever made this 'discovery' must be on something and whoever approved this article is just a moron.
Even more interesting than all of this is that God's name is God. Not Hector or Henry or Herbert, but God. Worship of a God named God....and he has a bulbous beard that only Michelangelo knew about.
The works of Michelangelo are absolutely amazing. Here's a book with hundreds of his works http://bit.ly/cxf4tv. If your interested check it out and see all the hidden images he put into his pictures. Every time I look at one of his works I always see something new that catches my eyes. No one in our time will ever match the genius of this man
your link takes me to a place where i can buy a text book. and i don't see a place at that website to view Michelangelo's works. so, you had my hopes up, and then my hopes were dashes. boo!
lol, anyways, Michelangelo is a great master and it would be great to own a book with large high quality prints and in depth descriptions of his works.
that is interesting and all but it doesn't really have anything to do with Michelangelo or brains or GOD. the shroud debate is a whole discussion in itself especially if you want to go in the da Vinci direction. Leonardo is unquestionably a great master who undoubtedly worked things into his art beyond just simple subject matter but your post is rather off topic. That, however, is only my opinion.
In the renaissance they believed that the heart was the " brain" so its just silly to look for things that aren't there - Michelangelo was no DA Vinci - rotfl
You know, in all of this I have seen no evidence offered in terms of documentation. Did Michelangelo ever record his thoughts on these matters or is there even second hand account of him mentioning this? The problem I have witht he concept of "hidden" images is that, organs are so...organic. My point being, the eye is trained to recognize shapes and will often see things that are not there. :D This emoticon is a good example. Our eyes can recognize it as a face, when in reality, it bears no real resemblance to lips or eyes beyond a highly abstract, if minimal, representation.
What proof is there that you are not just seeing what you want to see, fairies in the garden and what not? Until you present something more than, "it sort of looks like a brain stem", you have a baseless notion on your hands.
It's not any one piece of evidence that shows Michelangelo's likely intention, but the combination of many separate details. God's beard looks extremely irregular while the neck is an anatomical catastrophe despite the fact that Michelangelo was an excellent artist with a background in human anatomy. The light is consistent throughout the piece with the exception of the neck and the work depicts God at the time of the "Separation of Light from Darkness."
From the full paper: " A "shadow analysis" of the unusual lines in God's neck correspond to specific spaces around the brainstem known as the "arachnoid cisterns," which were described in detail much later in 1875, but which Michelangelo inadvertently depicted in God's neck since he was able to render images with almost photographic accuracy."
The symbolism is obvious to me, Michelangelo intended to say that God's voice comes from the mind of man. This doesn't necessarily mean that God isn't real, just that when men think they hear the voice of God they're actually hearing a part of their mind. Long ago the people that heard voices were called oracles, sages, and shaman, but today they're called schizophrenics. If you want to read an astounding book about this that will change the way you look at the human mind forever check out The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.
Michelangelo depicted God's larynx as inside the brain.
Michelangelo was telling you that there is no 'god' - simple as that.
anyone who believes this "analysis" is an imbecile!
(Ronnie Harper: you're an imbecile whether you believe it or not)
Yeah Ronnie, that's exactly what he was doing, great analysis you've done there.
Is it not possible Michelangelo was trying to make the statement that God exists in the mind of man? Maybe, but then again it could've been just a Renaissance "easter egg" drawn in for his own amusement.
The god idea exists solely in the mind of man, though many of us are not afflicted with this particular delusion, thank Dog.
That's what I was pointing out, the larynx is where the vocal chords are located, so depicting it in a brain is like saying "when you hear the voice of god, it's all in your head."
Francois Profitendieu, you're suspended for a day for violating #1 of the Code of Honor.
We're sure it's a brain stem and not some other part of anatomy?....
I'm sure it was Michelangelo telling the people paying him to stuff their 'god'.
It's funny this should come up because just the other day I bought a bag of brain stems and one of them looked exactly like God's throat. The Vatican declared it a miracle and I was charging pilgrims ten dollars to visit my house and see the sacred brain stem, but I guess now I'll have to call the whole thing off. Thanks for nothing, MSNBC!
If true, this lends to discussing that Michelangelo may have been a skeptic or agnostic given that he has painted manly features within godly depictions.
Michelangelo and I were born on the same day, 498 years apart. Coincidentally, he hid his disdain for mysticism, like I was forced to do as a child. I always hope that we are working together years apart on a similar mission. He was quite the complex figure - Mozart catered to the religious hierarchy of the time to make money. I love these men for their insight and art, and continue to champion rational and empirical science and philosophy today.
Sure, that's why I hear everyone refer to Ronnie Harper as the modern day Michaelangelo.
Mr. Harper, your views are so simple. Maybe Michelangelo was more complicated than you are. Maybe he wanted to depict God and man as intertwined and interrelated. A spiritual connectedness - not something tangible. I doubt he was as simple-minded as to create as he did, to give the message to people to "stuff their God."
By the way, philosophy is neither "rational" nor "empirical science." They are thoughts.
you can't just say that the idea of 'god is just in your head' isn't the meaning behind the art because of it being a simple answer. it may sound simple now but how could have people not seen the resemblance til today. it sounds simple when an answer is finally provided, but if it really was that simple, it should have been found shortly after his image was made public.
you can argue that its just coincidence, but many coincidences make it somewhat suspicious. i believe Ronnie Harper has a valid point in that god is just a belief and it is all in one's head.
Hey, I think all great ideas have almost infinite background and supporting thoughts and possibilities that go along with them. Someone as talented , imaginative, and perceptive as MichaelAngelo surely dwarfs the above concepts of his work. In otherwords, he perhaps conceived it first, but the reality already existed.
What are these people smoking?
no idea what people smoke these days, but it must be pretty bad if it took them this long to see the brain motifs in Michelangelo's paintings.
I vote optical illusion.
This is retarded. He was obviously painting the digastricus muscles, Hyoid bone, and Thyroid . Cricoid cartilage. And it's exactly what it looks like too. Whoever made this 'discovery' must be on something and whoever approved this article is just a moron.
Even more interesting than all of this is that God's name is God. Not Hector or Henry or Herbert, but God. Worship of a God named God....and he has a bulbous beard that only Michelangelo knew about.
Hmm... maybe that's what the "H" stands for in Jesus H. Christ?
not many people know this but the Sistine Chapel has frescoes throughout done by artists including Michelangelo, Raphael, Bernini, and Botticelli.
The works of Michelangelo are absolutely amazing. Here's a book with hundreds of his works http://bit.ly/cxf4tv. If your interested check it out and see all the hidden images he put into his pictures. Every time I look at one of his works I always see something new that catches my eyes. No one in our time will ever match the genius of this man
your link takes me to a place where i can buy a text book. and i don't see a place at that website to view Michelangelo's works. so, you had my hopes up, and then my hopes were dashes. boo!
lol, anyways, Michelangelo is a great master and it would be great to own a book with large high quality prints and in depth descriptions of his works.
Leonardo da Vinci, Mona Lisa and the Shroud of Turin
www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ikmq7ddbs
that is interesting and all but it doesn't really have anything to do with Michelangelo or brains or GOD. the shroud debate is a whole discussion in itself especially if you want to go in the da Vinci direction. Leonardo is unquestionably a great master who undoubtedly worked things into his art beyond just simple subject matter but your post is rather off topic. That, however, is only my opinion.
In the renaissance they believed that the heart was the " brain" so its just silly to look for things that aren't there - Michelangelo was no DA Vinci - rotfl
You know, in all of this I have seen no evidence offered in terms of documentation. Did Michelangelo ever record his thoughts on these matters or is there even second hand account of him mentioning this? The problem I have witht he concept of "hidden" images is that, organs are so...organic. My point being, the eye is trained to recognize shapes and will often see things that are not there. :D This emoticon is a good example. Our eyes can recognize it as a face, when in reality, it bears no real resemblance to lips or eyes beyond a highly abstract, if minimal, representation.
What proof is there that you are not just seeing what you want to see, fairies in the garden and what not? Until you present something more than, "it sort of looks like a brain stem", you have a baseless notion on your hands.
It's not any one piece of evidence that shows Michelangelo's likely intention, but the combination of many separate details. God's beard looks extremely irregular while the neck is an anatomical catastrophe despite the fact that Michelangelo was an excellent artist with a background in human anatomy. The light is consistent throughout the piece with the exception of the neck and the work depicts God at the time of the "Separation of Light from Darkness."
From the full paper:
" A "shadow analysis" of the unusual lines in God's neck correspond to specific spaces around the brainstem known as the "arachnoid cisterns," which were described in detail much later in 1875, but which Michelangelo inadvertently depicted in God's neck since he was able to render images with almost photographic accuracy."
The symbolism is obvious to me, Michelangelo intended to say that God's voice comes from the mind of man. This doesn't necessarily mean that God isn't real, just that when men think they hear the voice of God they're actually hearing a part of their mind. Long ago the people that heard voices were called oracles, sages, and shaman, but today they're called schizophrenics. If you want to read an astounding book about this that will change the way you look at the human mind forever check out The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind.