Either way, it would be nice if one...or a few...make it a dozen or so asteroids big enough (football field sized) to destroy selectively Washington D.C., Iran or the Middle East in general, North Korea, and whoever else is on my bad list....I'd say send em this way, but we aren't lucky enough for that to happen are we? So we are forced to deal with them..... and their psychotic, power hungry, ill conceived ideas.........Bad People Suck!!!
they should have designed it so that a shuttle could go up and replenish it so that it could continue on for many years. sounds like some good info is coming from this, you would think we would want it to continue.
Don't you love how our government manges to screw up anything good! Sure the shuttle program didn't do an enormous amount to advance us, but cutting manned flight altogether was shear stupidity on our President's part, but then again I haven't seen him do much that's in any way brilliant, taking us all down a road that leads to Socialism.
I'm an old guy now, but even as a kid, I said that there were lots of other worlds out there, and no one believed me then because just knowing it's so doesn't count, you need the paper on the wall and pics to prove it,lol. Now there's proof of more than 300 planets and more counted every week, it makes me feel good to see this all while I'm here to see it. Now it's time we stop thinking of ourselves as special, and realize we are just a average system in a vast galaxy. I saw a report where some media people asked a few of the most prominent scientists in the world if there are other civilizations out there, and if they think we'll ever prove it, and they said,"yes absolutely with all the suns and planets we see now it's impossible not to be, and we have a bottle of champagne in the frig to celebrate when we find them." That's some statement, from normally quiet professionals.
There are millions of planets, and tens of millions of asteroids and comets, and we're just getting smart enough to realize it.
You probably know of the Drake Equasion. Since 1961, when it was formulated, we have found Earth is more common than not in the Universe. I hope they detect someone out there for us to know. I go with Sagan though, chances are they will be too far advanced for us to have much to say, but it would be nice to know they are there when we grow up.
I was 6 when the 1st Moon landing happened. I don't know about Mars colonies, but I sure expected a permanent Moon base by now. I'm also still waiting for my flying car & robot maid.
Thought you said you was old - lol. The world had a lot more to look forward to in those days - even with the Soviets, bomb, and all. It was US against them. Now, it's US against US.
We dream of the past more than the future. Not just us old types, but the young are thinking the past is better than the future. We should work on that..
We will never be able to travel in space to some intergalactic zoo as long as we have people like 82AllAmericans who thinks humanity just destroys whatever we discover. This type of person would rather that humanity gets wiped out by an asteroid or remain in the stone age than become the super intelligent beings we are capable of becoming. The worst part about that is, they are multiplying and becoming more common than rational, intelligent people. I guess Darwin was wrong....we don't evolve, we digress!
Go West Young Man.... The moon maybe an airless sterile vaccum but it also contains enough Helium 3 to power the earth for billions of years.... So let the raping and pillaging begin....
I'm amazed, and pleased, that we are accomplishing good science with a modest instrument. We may not like what we find if they determine there are more potential "earth grazers" in the solar system than we expected. This is step one. The second step is a defense system, but maybe I'm counting my chickens too soon....but don't you know it's always the one you don't see that gets you.
Astronomers and astrophysicist would have us believe they have it all figured out but as I have said over and again, "You can only see as far as the current technology allows". Its like that four billion year old galaxy sitting sixteen billion light years out. It will be another 12 billion years before man will see its electromagnet signature. Everytime we step up the technology we get to see something more and one of these days big bang theorist will wake up and realize we don't have the technology to determine the age of the universe for it is a living, growing entity in and of itself and man but a tiny mote upon the cosmos.
I don't believe there are many, if any, astronomers and astrophysicists that say they "have it all figured out"...that is an overly broad presumption on your part. And obviously you can only see as far as your technology allows - how else could you see farther?
If these things were all figured out, why would it be necessary to research, build and launch these types of telescopes? And what would be the point of CERN? We don't even have a good grasp of how subatomic particles are formed and act. We don't even know that much about the inner earth or oceans much less about the entire cosmos. It's difficult just getting your head around the vast distances and the enormity of "stuff" in the unviverse.
Gee I wonder if I could have been right all these years since high school? I have believed that man will never see all of the cosmos or whatever you want to call it. I have thought of the universe as our world. With each human being, being a galaxy. All of the cells in our body being a miniture star system or solar system as you will. If you look at each cell you see the atoms that make up the cell. Then you have the DNA and RNA components of the cell. I wander what is smaller than that some physist will find some day? Now lets take that thinking the other way. As humans we meet and copulate and bingo another galaxy is born in nine months. Just as star systems are born or die, by the merging of two star systems. The next step is galaxies merge and new bigger galaxies are born or the collision rips apart one galaxy and then you have three galaxies. One larger one and two smaller ones as scientist are claiming happens in todays findings. Lets go to the next step. The earth and her eight sister planets and our sun are one atom in our body. The rest of the star in our galaxy equal the rest of the atoms in a single cell of our body. Now the cosmos becomes even larger than we believe to have ever existed. I remember when scientist said there was not enough matter in existance to base the closed universe big bang theory. Then they discovered Quasars. All of a sudden there is enough mass to support closed universe big bang. When you equate each cell in the human body as a galaxy then multiply that times the number of people on earth. It boggles the mind. Now it is a cell that is a galaxy and not a person anymore. The next step is the atom now represents a galaxy not just a star. What is the next step in this progression? How far does the ethreal realm exist? Small minds think small, large and expanding minds think larger and expanding thought.
The sheer numbers of probable objects in our galaxy, let alone the known universe is just beyond our comprehension, but the immense size of space alone and the units of distance between most of those objects implies that we should be fairly safe from any close enough collisions for concern for a very long time.
We definitely need to be cataloging and tracking every possible candidate for a near earth transit, though, for that one in a million chance of a very close flyby so we can try to change its course. A close enough brush by a large object could have catastrophic effects and a collision could end most of life on earth (especially human), so the chances are low, but the stakes couldn't be higher.
but the immense size of space alone and the units of distance between most of those objects implies that we should be fairly safe from any close enough collisions for concern for a very long time
look at the moon, mars, and places like Arizona and Chicxulub. along with events likw Tunguska. perhaps you should reconsider...
it is likely that we have far more immediate and pressing concerns,(and the likelyhood decreases with size) but it only takes one big one.
I agree and am as amazed as you are. I just hope they don't come here 'to serve man'! Personally I'd rather remain anonymous for a while longer. Not to be negative because it is interesting, but we have some vastly important changes to make in this world before we start looking for other life forms.
If and when 'life' is found by us, it will more then likely be microbial in nature. If there is intelligent life out there... even to our closest 'neighbors' it would take 900 to 1000 years for our signals to reach them and visa versa... Maybe in that time we can learn from our mistakes and not be so dang threatening to anyone out there?
Yet another stupid comment from 82AllAmericans.......Think before you type!!! I am embarrassedfor you! You really are an Environmental Wacko, and you need a reality check!
This is what really matters b/c, if God forbid, an asteroid has EARTH's name on it all the worlds endless political "pitter patter" and whining will matter not. The funny thing also is for all the venom the middle eastern countries spew about the US and the West in general, if something nasty ever did come our way WHO WOULD STAND THE BEST CHANCE OF SAVING EARTH? Some Sheikh and his harem of slave women? Maybe they could have another STONING to "please" God? Or, perhaps Al Quada and their bearded hateful savage cavemen would send a suicide bomber to the Asteroid? I don't think so! We all know who it would be, either the US or more likely the US in combination with Russia and China, or Russian and China in combo with US (-;. Heck, maybe the Asteroid's path will lead it smack into the middle east, and then the savages can pray like heck to their child molesting and murderous "Mohammed" to "save" them, I think that would truly be cosmic justice.
Ya Da-arr-yl, I'm a "Christian" huh? and I suppose you admire societies that STONE their women, treat them like cattle, and behead those who will not "SUBMIT." Focus on the argument, not your personal issues, ok?
I think his point was... as a Christian... your attitude sounds in complete contradiction to what Jesus taught on "the sermon on the mount"...
Love Your Enemies 43 "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' 44But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
I'm no longer a Christian myself... but I think your rant proves that neither are you... you just don't realize it yet.
WoW,thats some real faith.I would think with all they are discovering you would believe even more than ever.Jesus did tell us the Earth would be destroyed by fire the second time.And if you believe in scientists than you believe we evolved from apes,then why are there still apes.Every other species that evolved didnt keep its old form did it??????????You either believe or not,so you were never a christian if you stopped believing.
I'm just wondering, you said you are no longer a Christian. Why? You quote scripture concerning anothers comments. I think maybe you might be a little lost concerning the faith. I don't think people qoute scripture and not believe. Paul said in 1 Cor 1:18; For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are parishing, but to us who are being saved is the power of God. I don't think you think it's foolishness. I will pray for you. Come back because 'there's no place like home.'
He's probably a Catholic, those Holy people that still molest little boys and wasn't that long ago that they got their rocks off beheading those that opposed them. Check your own faith before deciding somone else's is wrong.
WoW,thats some real faith.I would think with all they are discovering you would believe even more than ever.
Belief, like respect should be earned... and the Christian faith and especially Catholic church demonstrate quite clearly that they do not practice what they preach... and in fact, some things that they do preach, and practice are in direct contradiction to my personal moral compass, and I have to stay true to myself, not to the flock of sheep.
And if you believe in scientists than you believe we evolved from apes,then why are there still apes.Every other species that evolved didnt keep its old form did it??????????
That is a generic overused creationist argument... Evolution does not say we evolved from apes... it says that we shared a common ancestor, but we broke away into our line, and they into theirs... we are a separate species.
You either believe or not,so you were never a christian if you stopped believing.
I believe Jesus existed... I believe he was a very great and wise teacher, whose church only existed for 3 short years... I believe that church was usurped, hijacked by clerics and priests who corrupted the message and shaped the church to serve themsleves, and keep them in a position of exalted power. How can Jesus tell you that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to pass through the gates of heaven, and yet, the pope... the middle man between you and God, the supreme enforcer of Jesus's word, lives in the most ornate, and oppulent mansion in the world, wears the finest clothes and $500 red slippers, and has servants that wait on his every whim.... that is a glaring contradiction, among many.
I'm just wondering, you said you are no longer a Christian. Why? You quote scripture concerning anothers comments. I think maybe you might be a little lost concerning the faith. I don't think people qoute scripture and not believe.
As I said above... I believe Jesus existed and was a great and wise teacher... but I do not believe he was divine...
My thinking is more along the lines of Deism these days, like many of our countries founding fathers was... although I have moments of leanings towards Pantheism...
V is right. The Catholic church has perverted everything Jesus taught. In most cases the Catholic church directly contradicts the Bible itself. But then again . . . the Bible does warn against corruption in the highest levels of the church. I guess they just hope people will skip that part.
... I believe that church was usurped, hijacked by clerics and priests who corrupted the message and shaped the church to serve themsleves, and keep them in a position of exalted power
Thomas Jefferson would wholly agree with you. He made similar statements himself several times. that's why he wrote the so-called "Jefferson bible". the message was a good one, but it has been lost .
and now, supernaturalist lunatics who believe in ghosts, demons and witches try to convince people that the Earth is only 6000 years old.
I'm with V on this one.... While I believe Christ was a great teacher I also believe he was a product of his times. He wasn't aware of anything outside his world. I believe he was more of a pasifist political leader against Roman occupation and exploitation rather then a divine being trying to save the world and it's future. it was Mortal man that created religion as we know it today. Christ never set out to create Christianity... He was a Jew preaching to Jews on how to be a good Jew and survive Roman rule...
Personally, I think this "sudden finding" of asteroids is a failure of the Obama administration. Someone should have known this was coming and maybe they did. I think there should be a congressional investigation to get to the bottom of this. Who knew what and when is the issue here. Heads should "roll" and if there is any "criminallity" involved the American public deserved to see some of these "asteroid finding slackers" incarcerated!!!!
I watch way too much Science on TV. And, I'm old, too. When I was in school, there wasn't even a theory on tectonic plates! So, I watch to learn, even at 63. And, I LOVE where we are now scientifically! We're on the verge of making discoveries that will fundamentally change how we view the cosmos...and ourselves.
There is SURELY life out there! Is it sentient? Who knows...and who cares? If THEY know we're here, we're probably quarantined as a violent, unstable and infantile race. Until we learn how to NOT kill everything around us, including our fellow humans, we're not ready to meet aliens. Likely we'd take the first shot, piss 'em off and they'd vaporize Earth.
WebRydr... I'm 46 and I watch WAY too much Science/History & National Geographic. However, I find this stuff facinating. It wasn't until relatively recently that scientists realized that Yellowstone was actually a Caldera Volcano and an active one at that.... God I hope that she doesn't blow in my lifetime... But it would sure be something to see if we could survive it....
"I'm glad that we don't have a "moon base"... it would oly lead to the moon being as poluted and raped of it's natural resource as we've done here."
which was made by 82allamericans, who is not smart enough to realize that it is better to get our resources from places where nothng lives than it is to get our resources from the place that we have to live in and share with all the other life here on Earth.
Moon base? The ONLY reason we, or any other nation would want a moon base would be so they could build some kind of weapons system, deliver it to the moon and point it at Earth!
Getting funding for that would have a much better shot than pure research or "because it's there."
Not unlike his needless support of cost and risk prohibitive nuclear power plants, by choosing to fund to the greatest extent possible NASA’s status quo and its ultimate goal of a manned trip to Mars, President Obama is once again choosing the politically expedient route instead of taking command of our nation’s economic, environmental, and security priorities. Given the sonic booms and huge burst of light over Iowa this past year and given our massive federal deficit and debt, NASA’s only and lower cost priority should be to locate and destroy meteorites that have the capability and possibility of extinguishing all of humanity. That would allow our nation’s other priorities to be better served by employing the balance of NASA’s laid off talent to develop ways to make America independent of foreign oil and the world leader for the export of clean energy technology and the production of clean domestically produced natural gas and coal. Otherwise, NASA’s manned flight to Mars may be a one way trip and the only question will be whether the flight leaves before humanity on Earth will cease to exist due to a large meteor striking deep into its surface or increasing levels of carbon and nitrogen emissions poisoning our atmosphere.
we are far more likely to simply poison ourselves by polluting ourselves to death, the actual chance of a large asteroid striking the Earth are quite small(but real).
and nuclear fast-breeder reactors offer the only real way to eliminate the long-term nuclear waste that we already don't know what to do with.
Wow this is newsworthy I thought whenever scientists count they can only count with a number that ends in illions, such as gazillions of years ago we were created, or we need bazillions of dollars to find intelligent life on Earth. Maybe it's a typo maybe they really mean 25,000,illions of asteroids found and they will all come at us at once! NO!!! Stop the asteroids by going green and illgalizing plastic. Or 15, gazillions comets have been found but is there any inteligence in sight on planet earth yet?
That's a lot of "dark matter" to find in our own backyard. Let's skip Mars and just visit some of the larger asteroids for a little prospecting. Vis-a-vis the big mineral prospects just announced in Afghanistan, why not turn the WISE loose on taking photos of the Earth.
For the political commentators: I remember when the idiots in the Reagan administration cut back the EOS satellite program which monitored water level sensors all over the US at a time when flooding and droughts were becoming more common. Mars and the moon can wait, we need a little NASA ingenuity applied to the home planet.
Shadoe77 I agree there is a lot more dark matter in the minds of most of the post than grey matter with some light to shine forth as a symbolence of intelligence.
Shadoe77 I agree there is a lot more dark matter in the minds of most of the post than grey matter with some light to shine forth as a symbolence of intelligence.
Well I will always hope they miss the one about a mile in diameter that hits Iran. End of problem.
Iran or Washington, D.C. Either place would take care of our problems.
How about a smaller one that would just hit..YOUR house or trailer!!!!Mean people should be on political comment sites.
A mile in diameter would end all of everyones problems....
it took one nickle-iron meteor the size of a house to make the crater in Arizona, estimated at something like 3 megatons.
a mile-wide one would be ...BAD
Either way, it would be nice if one...or a few...make it a dozen or so asteroids big enough (football field sized) to destroy selectively Washington D.C., Iran or the Middle East in general, North Korea, and whoever else is on my bad list....I'd say send em this way, but we aren't lucky enough for that to happen are we? So we are forced to deal with them..... and their psychotic, power hungry, ill conceived ideas.........Bad People Suck!!!
Now this is money well spent - for a change. I wonder who's idea it was?
Oops. It was approved by G W Bush.
If we only could get that lucky!!!!
"Only the good die young"!
More good reading can be found in the Google Search 'Death of the Universe'. We are but a spec in the big picture.
Considerably smaller than a speck I'd say.....
Thats too Bad, that WISE will run out of coolant, will it finish its Job before that occurs.
By design, yes, it will complete it's job before running out of coolant.
they should have designed it so that a shuttle could go up and replenish it so that it could continue on for many years. sounds like some good info is coming from this, you would think we would want it to continue.
hould have gone to Jiffy Lube they offer free top offs lol
Can't send a shuttle-- That program has been discontinued by our fearless leaders.
Don't you love how our government manges to screw up anything good! Sure the shuttle program didn't do an enormous amount to advance us, but cutting manned flight altogether was shear stupidity on our President's part, but then again I haven't seen him do much that's in any way brilliant, taking us all down a road that leads to Socialism.
I'm an old guy now, but even as a kid, I said that there were lots of other worlds out there, and no one believed me then because just knowing it's so doesn't count, you need the paper on the wall and pics to prove it,lol. Now there's proof of more than 300 planets and more counted every week, it makes me feel good to see this all while I'm here to see it. Now it's time we stop thinking of ourselves as special, and realize we are just a average system in a vast galaxy. I saw a report where some media people asked a few of the most prominent scientists in the world if there are other civilizations out there, and if they think we'll ever prove it, and they said,"yes absolutely with all the suns and planets we see now it's impossible not to be, and we have a bottle of champagne in the frig to celebrate when we find them." That's some statement, from normally quiet professionals.
There are millions of planets, and tens of millions of asteroids and comets, and we're just getting smart enough to realize it.
You probably know of the Drake Equasion. Since 1961, when it was formulated, we have found Earth is more common than not in the Universe. I hope they detect someone out there for us to know. I go with Sagan though, chances are they will be too far advanced for us to have much to say, but it would be nice to know they are there when we grow up.
http://www.classbrain.com/artmovies/publish/article_50.shtml
When we went to the Moon in 1969, we figured we would have colonies on Mars by now.
I was 6 when the 1st Moon landing happened. I don't know about Mars colonies, but I sure expected a permanent Moon base by now. I'm also still waiting for my flying car & robot maid.
Thought you said you was old - lol. The world had a lot more to look forward to in those days - even with the Soviets, bomb, and all. It was US against them. Now, it's US against US.
We dream of the past more than the future. Not just us old types, but the young are thinking the past is better than the future. We should work on that..
I'm glad that we don't have a "moon base"... it would oly lead to the moon being as poluted and raped of it's natural resource as we've done here.
the MOON is an airless sterile vacuum!
Yes we would deforest it, polute its streams and rivers, and decimate its ecosystem.....ROTFLMAO
why is it always assumed if we find life on other planets they will be super intelligent beings that surpass us in every way?
why can't it ever be conceived that we find a planet that is going through its "Jurassic Dinosaur" period.
Talk about a kids dream come true! Hop on a space ship, travel to another planet, go to the H627v4J Intergalactic Dino Zoo!
We will never be able to travel in space to some intergalactic zoo as long as we have people like 82AllAmericans who thinks humanity just destroys whatever we discover. This type of person would rather that humanity gets wiped out by an asteroid or remain in the stone age than become the super intelligent beings we are capable of becoming. The worst part about that is, they are multiplying and becoming more common than rational, intelligent people. I guess Darwin was wrong....we don't evolve, we digress!
far better that it happen where nothing is alive to suffer for it, wouldn't you think?
unless you are worried about the "suffering" of airless rocks. LOL
Go West Young Man.... The moon maybe an airless sterile vaccum but it also contains enough Helium 3 to power the earth for billions of years.... So let the raping and pillaging begin....
I'm amazed, and pleased, that we are accomplishing good science with a modest instrument. We may not like what we find if they determine there are more potential "earth grazers" in the solar system than we expected. This is step one. The second step is a defense system, but maybe I'm counting my chickens too soon....but don't you know it's always the one you don't see that gets you.
Astronomers and astrophysicist would have us believe they have it all figured out but as I have said over and again, "You can only see as far as the current technology allows". Its like that four billion year old galaxy sitting sixteen billion light years out. It will be another 12 billion years before man will see its electromagnet signature. Everytime we step up the technology we get to see something more and one of these days big bang theorist will wake up and realize we don't have the technology to determine the age of the universe for it is a living, growing entity in and of itself and man but a tiny mote upon the cosmos.
I don't believe there are many, if any, astronomers and astrophysicists that say they "have it all figured out"...that is an overly broad presumption on your part. And obviously you can only see as far as your technology allows - how else could you see farther?
If these things were all figured out, why would it be necessary to research, build and launch these types of telescopes? And what would be the point of CERN? We don't even have a good grasp of how subatomic particles are formed and act. We don't even know that much about the inner earth or oceans much less about the entire cosmos. It's difficult just getting your head around the vast distances and the enormity of "stuff" in the unviverse.
Gee I wonder if I could have been right all these years since high school? I have believed that man will never see all of the cosmos or whatever you want to call it. I have thought of the universe as our world. With each human being, being a galaxy. All of the cells in our body being a miniture star system or solar system as you will. If you look at each cell you see the atoms that make up the cell. Then you have the DNA and RNA components of the cell. I wander what is smaller than that some physist will find some day? Now lets take that thinking the other way. As humans we meet and copulate and bingo another galaxy is born in nine months. Just as star systems are born or die, by the merging of two star systems. The next step is galaxies merge and new bigger galaxies are born or the collision rips apart one galaxy and then you have three galaxies. One larger one and two smaller ones as scientist are claiming happens in todays findings. Lets go to the next step. The earth and her eight sister planets and our sun are one atom in our body. The rest of the star in our galaxy equal the rest of the atoms in a single cell of our body. Now the cosmos becomes even larger than we believe to have ever existed. I remember when scientist said there was not enough matter in existance to base the closed universe big bang theory. Then they discovered Quasars. All of a sudden there is enough mass to support closed universe big bang. When you equate each cell in the human body as a galaxy then multiply that times the number of people on earth. It boggles the mind. Now it is a cell that is a galaxy and not a person anymore. The next step is the atom now represents a galaxy not just a star. What is the next step in this progression? How far does the ethreal realm exist? Small minds think small, large and expanding minds think larger and expanding thought.
The sheer numbers of probable objects in our galaxy, let alone the known universe is just beyond our comprehension, but the immense size of space alone and the units of distance between most of those objects implies that we should be fairly safe from any close enough collisions for concern for a very long time.
We definitely need to be cataloging and tracking every possible candidate for a near earth transit, though, for that one in a million chance of a very close flyby so we can try to change its course. A close enough brush by a large object could have catastrophic effects and a collision could end most of life on earth (especially human), so the chances are low, but the stakes couldn't be higher.
look at the moon, mars, and places like Arizona and Chicxulub. along with events likw Tunguska. perhaps you should reconsider...
it is likely that we have far more immediate and pressing concerns,(and the likelyhood decreases with size) but it only takes one big one.
Really cool stuff. Maybe we'll spot alien ships conducting routine planet mapping before they confiscate the planet. We'll make good avatars.
the government would never tell us about those discoveries. just about the planets that still have dinosaurs
I agree and am as amazed as you are. I just hope they don't come here 'to serve man'! Personally I'd rather remain anonymous for a while longer. Not to be negative because it is interesting, but we have some vastly important changes to make in this world before we start looking for other life forms.
If another species were able to travel here it would be embarrassing to have them here.
I could only imagine what they would think.
We are probably the ghetto of the galaxy... scary, dangerous, and messy... We may be on some galactic list of places to avoid...
Our stargate is still buried.
"Warning- this world is inhabited by tribal, irrational, mostly stupid and aggressive creatures. avoid at all costs"
notice in galactic travelers guide
If and when 'life' is found by us, it will more then likely be microbial in nature. If there is intelligent life out there... even to our closest 'neighbors' it would take 900 to 1000 years for our signals to reach them and visa versa... Maybe in that time we can learn from our mistakes and not be so dang threatening to anyone out there?
Did someone from NASA check the BP oil rig for Bruce Willis and his team...
Yet another stupid comment from 82AllAmericans.......Think before you type!!! I am embarrassedfor you! You really are an Environmental Wacko, and you need a reality check!
This is what really matters b/c, if God forbid, an asteroid has EARTH's name on it all the worlds endless political "pitter patter" and whining will matter not. The funny thing also is for all the venom the middle eastern countries spew about the US and the West in general, if something nasty ever did come our way WHO WOULD STAND THE BEST CHANCE OF SAVING EARTH? Some Sheikh and his harem of slave women? Maybe they could have another STONING to "please" God? Or, perhaps Al Quada and their bearded hateful savage cavemen would send a suicide bomber to the Asteroid? I don't think so! We all know who it would be, either the US or more likely the US in combination with Russia and China, or Russian and China in combo with US (-;. Heck, maybe the Asteroid's path will lead it smack into the middle east, and then the savages can pray like heck to their child molesting and murderous "Mohammed" to "save" them, I think that would truly be cosmic justice.
I suppose you call yourself a Christian, huh?
Ya Da-arr-yl, I'm a "Christian" huh? and I suppose you admire societies that STONE their women, treat them like cattle, and behead those who will not "SUBMIT." Focus on the argument, not your personal issues, ok?
I think his point was... as a Christian... your attitude sounds in complete contradiction to what Jesus taught on "the sermon on the mount"...
I'm no longer a Christian myself... but I think your rant proves that neither are you... you just don't realize it yet.
WoW,thats some real faith.I would think with all they are discovering you would believe even more than ever.Jesus did tell us the Earth would be destroyed by fire the second time.And if you believe in scientists than you believe we evolved from apes,then why are there still apes.Every other species that evolved didnt keep its old form did it??????????You either believe or not,so you were never a christian if you stopped believing.
love thy enemy it really pisses them off!!!
It's amazing how many so called Christians are spiteful, vindictive, and hateful. Everything Jesus spoke against. Did I mention judgemental?
I'm just wondering, you said you are no longer a Christian. Why? You quote scripture concerning anothers comments. I think maybe you might be a little lost concerning the faith. I don't think people qoute scripture and not believe. Paul said in 1 Cor 1:18; For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are parishing, but to us who are being saved is the power of God. I don't think you think it's foolishness. I will pray for you. Come back because 'there's no place like home.'
He's probably a Catholic, those Holy people that still molest little boys and wasn't that long ago that they got their rocks off beheading those that opposed them. Check your own faith before deciding somone else's is wrong.
What would Jesus do if a mile diameter asteroid hit Iran? Turn the other cheek....?
Belief, like respect should be earned... and the Christian faith and especially Catholic church demonstrate quite clearly that they do not practice what they preach... and in fact, some things that they do preach, and practice are in direct contradiction to my personal moral compass, and I have to stay true to myself, not to the flock of sheep.
That is a generic overused creationist argument... Evolution does not say we evolved from apes... it says that we shared a common ancestor, but we broke away into our line, and they into theirs... we are a separate species.
I believe Jesus existed... I believe he was a very great and wise teacher, whose church only existed for 3 short years... I believe that church was usurped, hijacked by clerics and priests who corrupted the message and shaped the church to serve themsleves, and keep them in a position of exalted power. How can Jesus tell you that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to pass through the gates of heaven, and yet, the pope... the middle man between you and God, the supreme enforcer of Jesus's word, lives in the most ornate, and oppulent mansion in the world, wears the finest clothes and $500 red slippers, and has servants that wait on his every whim.... that is a glaring contradiction, among many.
As I said above... I believe Jesus existed and was a great and wise teacher... but I do not believe he was divine...
My thinking is more along the lines of Deism these days, like many of our countries founding fathers was... although I have moments of leanings towards Pantheism...
V is right. The Catholic church has perverted everything Jesus taught. In most cases the Catholic church directly contradicts the Bible itself. But then again . . . the Bible does warn against corruption in the highest levels of the church. I guess they just hope people will skip that part.
Thomas Jefferson would wholly agree with you. He made similar statements himself several times. that's why he wrote the so-called "Jefferson bible". the message was a good one, but it has been lost .
and now, supernaturalist lunatics who believe in ghosts, demons and witches try to convince people that the Earth is only 6000 years old.
I'm with V on this one.... While I believe Christ was a great teacher I also believe he was a product of his times. He wasn't aware of anything outside his world. I believe he was more of a pasifist political leader against Roman occupation and exploitation rather then a divine being trying to save the world and it's future. it was Mortal man that created religion as we know it today. Christ never set out to create Christianity... He was a Jew preaching to Jews on how to be a good Jew and survive Roman rule...
Personally, I think this "sudden finding" of asteroids is a failure of the Obama administration. Someone should have known this was coming and maybe they did. I think there should be a congressional investigation to get to the bottom of this. Who knew what and when is the issue here. Heads should "roll" and if there is any "criminallity" involved the American public deserved to see some of these "asteroid finding slackers" incarcerated!!!!
I can only hope that your comment is an overly obtuse attempt at humor...
HA HA! Look at the Kagan appointment, a SJC Judge who's NEVER EVER been a JUDGE! "an attempt at humor" yeah
actually, there have been several SC judges that had never been judges before.
The First Chief Justice was never a Judge.
I watch way too much Science on TV. And, I'm old, too. When I was in school, there wasn't even a theory on tectonic plates! So, I watch to learn, even at 63. And, I LOVE where we are now scientifically! We're on the verge of making discoveries that will fundamentally change how we view the cosmos...and ourselves.
There is SURELY life out there! Is it sentient? Who knows...and who cares? If THEY know we're here, we're probably quarantined as a violent, unstable and infantile race. Until we learn how to NOT kill everything around us, including our fellow humans, we're not ready to meet aliens. Likely we'd take the first shot, piss 'em off and they'd vaporize Earth.
Be talkin' to you.....................Webrydr
Check out http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/hframe.html
You know, what you just said is more than likely the truth. Humans are a pest at best and should be avioded at all cost!
WebRydr... I'm 46 and I watch WAY too much Science/History & National Geographic. However, I find this stuff facinating. It wasn't until relatively recently that scientists realized that Yellowstone was actually a Caldera Volcano and an active one at that.... God I hope that she doesn't blow in my lifetime... But it would sure be something to see if we could survive it....
"I'm glad that we don't have a "moon base"... it would oly lead to the moon being as poluted and raped of it's natural resource as we've done here."
Yea, we don't want all those animals on the moon to lose their habitat now do we?
Harry, the moon is a sterile, radiation filled, lifeless VACUUM! anything we do there would likey be an improvement (-: don't ya think?
nasa is already talking about a moon base... so i guess we are out to rape and pillage what we do not arleady have..
actually, Harry was responding to #6.4.
which was made by 82allamericans, who is not smart enough to realize that it is better to get our resources from places where nothng lives than it is to get our resources from the place that we have to live in and share with all the other life here on Earth.
Moon base? The ONLY reason we, or any other nation would want a moon base would be so they could build some kind of weapons system, deliver it to the moon and point it at Earth!
Getting funding for that would have a much better shot than pure research or "because it's there."
Harry & Web Rydr - Sorry! I forgot about all the "little moon animals" (-:
what moon animals?
the "man in the moon's" pets.
obviously :)
Not unlike his needless support of cost and risk prohibitive nuclear power plants, by choosing to fund to the greatest extent possible NASA’s status quo and its ultimate goal of a manned trip to Mars, President Obama is once again choosing the politically expedient route instead of taking command of our nation’s economic, environmental, and security priorities. Given the sonic booms and huge burst of light over Iowa this past year and given our massive federal deficit and debt, NASA’s only and lower cost priority should be to locate and destroy meteorites that have the capability and possibility of extinguishing all of humanity. That would allow our nation’s other priorities to be better served by employing the balance of NASA’s laid off talent to develop ways to make America independent of foreign oil and the world leader for the export of clean energy technology and the production of clean domestically produced natural gas and coal. Otherwise, NASA’s manned flight to Mars may be a one way trip and the only question will be whether the flight leaves before humanity on Earth will cease to exist due to a large meteor striking deep into its surface or increasing levels of carbon and nitrogen emissions poisoning our atmosphere.
we are far more likely to simply poison ourselves by polluting ourselves to death, the actual chance of a large asteroid striking the Earth are quite small(but real).
and nuclear fast-breeder reactors offer the only real way to eliminate the long-term nuclear waste that we already don't know what to do with.
Wow this is newsworthy I thought whenever scientists count they can only count with a number that ends in illions, such as gazillions of years ago we were created, or we need bazillions of dollars to find intelligent life on Earth. Maybe it's a typo maybe they really mean 25,000,illions of asteroids found and they will all come at us at once! NO!!! Stop the asteroids by going green and illgalizing plastic. Or 15, gazillions comets have been found but is there any inteligence in sight on planet earth yet?
not much.
82AllAmericans -
There are no trees on the moon to hug. Get a grip.
Try to imagine naming the 25000+ new asteroids. Alpha 1, beta 1, centari 1..... The scientists must've had a field day. <jk>
They just name them after Chinese.... Ming one, Ming two, etc, Ming 1million. Then Chang One....etc....
How about let people 'adopt them'... That way when Ralph comes to vaporize our butts we know who to curse at....
that's funny, but I think it has some truth......the galactic ghetto!!!
None of the apocalyptic things being pointed out daily by the media is half as scary as the democrat party.
That's a lot of "dark matter" to find in our own backyard. Let's skip Mars and just visit some of the larger asteroids for a little prospecting. Vis-a-vis the big mineral prospects just announced in Afghanistan, why not turn the WISE loose on taking photos of the Earth.
For the political commentators: I remember when the idiots in the Reagan administration cut back the EOS satellite program which monitored water level sensors all over the US at a time when flooding and droughts were becoming more common. Mars and the moon can wait, we need a little NASA ingenuity applied to the home planet.
Shadoe77 I agree there is a lot more dark matter in the minds of most of the post than grey matter with some light to shine forth as a symbolence of intelligence.
Shadoe77 I agree there is a lot more dark matter in the minds of most of the post than grey matter with some light to shine forth as a symbolence of intelligence.